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Re: Invited expert agreement

From: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 06:45:58 -0500
Message-ID: <54940FF6.80001@intertwingly.net>
To: "chaals@yandex-team.ru" <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
CC: public-w3process <public-w3process@w3.org>, Wendy Seltzer <wseltzer@w3.org>, Rigo Wenning <rigo@w3.org>
On 12/19/2014 05:46 AM, chaals@yandex-team.ru wrote:
> + rigo@
> - singer@, jeff@
>
> Hi Sam,
>
> I am seriously uncomfortable with a document that looks for all the world like the real thing, with no clues that it is a modified version, being put out there in public. Putting up text for discussion seems reasonable, but this page as published on your site does not. I'm hoping that you will change it to be clear that it is a proposal, before taking the discussion much further afield.

First, you seem to be responding to a note that I never received.  I 
don't know where it was sent, but I can't find it in the web archives:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-w3process/2014Dec/author.html

Second, patches welcome.  Seriously.

I state my concerns.  There is little progress.  You suggest that I take 
a stab at it, and I do, and at which point there starts to be some progress.

Now you state your concerns.  Good.  That's how we make progress.  I 
suggest that you draft whatever it will take to address those concerns. 
  In return, I'll promise to be responsive.

I also invite Rigo, Wendy, or whomever to draft their own proposal.  If 
that results in something that I will support and is more likely to gain 
consensus, I'll retire my draft, most likely with a 410 Gone HTTP status 
response.

> cheers
>
> Chaals

- Sam Ruby

> 18.12.2014, 14:10, "Sam Ruby" <rubys@intertwingly.net>:
>>   On 12/18/2014 05:49 AM, chaals@yandex-team.ru wrote:
>
>>>    Although I claim there is no grey in my beard - and that funny lighting makes it seem there may be - I have found that is a more effective way to move things forward than waiting for someone else to do the drafting.
>>   Fair enough:
>>
>>   http://intertwingly.net/stories/2014/12/18/08-invited-expert.html
>>
>>   The one change is the removal of a single paragraph in section 2.2.
>>
>>   I hereby invite comments.
>
> It would be helpful if this looked like a proposal, instead of like the actual agreement. I.e. strip out the W3C branding and write a note at the top that says it is a proposal. (You might also want to note the paragraph you stripped out).
>
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