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Re: ACTION REQUIRED: Call for Consensus: Proposed Process Change Regarding TAG Participation Rules; Respond by December 8, 2014

From: JC Verdié <jicheu@yahoo.fr>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 14:31:37 +0100
Cc: Daniel Glazman <daniel.glazman@disruptive-innovations.com>, public-w3process@w3.org
Message-Id: <969742C9-5D9A-4312-887A-D67DFE745A5B@yahoo.fr>
To: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
It looks to me like there’s more than 1 people supporting the proposed change, but there’s so much noise that it’s hard to tell if the others “don’t care”, “can live with or without” or are strongly opposed.

I am strongly *against* any change that would allow, on a permanent basis, many people from the same company. For the simple reason that even if we elect individuals and not corporations, I do not live in Candyland, and sadly, because of this, I have to take measures and act accordingly.


> On 10 Dec 2014, at 20:09, David Singer <singer@apple.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 10, 2014, at 9:57 , Daniel Glazman <daniel.glazman@disruptive-innovations.com> wrote:
>> On 10/12/14 18:31, Linss, Peter wrote:
>>> I am also strongly in favor of the change. It's a small but reasonable step.
>>> Frankly I'm inclined to remove the restriction entirely, I don't see it
>>> helping anything.
>> Agreed 100%. I heard so many times we're electing individuals and
>> not Members but we put Member-based restrictions on these individuals.
>> It makes, from my perspective, strictly no sense. Get the best ones,
>> period.
> I think we have been around this several times, and thrashed it to death, but 
> * even with the best of intentions, people are affected by their corporate culture, viewpoint, and colleagues
> * some companies are, in fact, quite directive: it’s hard not to do what your boss tells you to do
> * if someone has to choose whether to lean towards supporting their employer (who pays their salary) or a clean ‘best for the web’, I think they’ll find it hard not to try to convince themselves that leaning towards their employer’s viewpoint is at least acceptable
> People are good but not perfect. In another context, I might think, for example, I am sensitive to racism and sexism but I am also aware I am, in fact, a white male. We seek diversity because of the unconscious biases, the blind spots, lacunae, and so on. I think the same is true here. It’s prudent.
> David Singer
> Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
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