Re: Open and Transparent W3C Community Group Proposed

On Aug 7, 2014, at 3:19 , Olivier Thereaux <Olivier.Thereaux@bbc.co.uk> wrote:

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> On 7 Aug 2014, at 07:41, Karl Dubost <karl@la-grange.net> wrote:
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>> Le 7 août 2014 à 08:30, Jean-Charles (JC) Verdié <jicheu@yahoo.fr> a écrit :
>>> Actually, I fully share his point of view that this group's name is an
>>> insult to the W3C, and I would even say it carries a lie by misleading
>>> people to believe W3C is neither open nor transparent at all.
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>> Could we cool down a bit and find a better solution? :)
>> From as far I remember, W3C has always been a place where discussions between good will people led to good changes. I think the intent of the group is to propose to push further the openness and transparency. There was a time W3C had most of its WG with closed door meetings and hidden minutes, with mailing-lists in Member only space, etc. etc. Things have changed and they can certainly change again.
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> There is no question that the W3C has been working very hard to become and remain an open and transparent organisation. 

That started soon after we stopped beating our wives. :-)

Seriously, your sentence suggests it was not at some point in its past.  Can we stop insulting ourselves like this?

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> Are most people interacting with the W3C in agreement? Hopefully. Will there always be people who believe that the W3C is an evil, closed cabal regardless of what we do? Certainly. Are there people in between? Most likely. 
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> So having a place to interact with people who think we could do more/better does not sound like a bad idea. Unless we already have a functional one already I can’t think of? (Process CG does not qualify, sorry)
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> As for the CG name, I fail to find it offensive: “Open and Transparent W3C” community group sounds like a good place to discuss our ongoing commitment to openness and transparency. 
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> My tuppence,
> 
> Olivier

David Singer
Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.

Received on Thursday, 7 August 2014 15:49:46 UTC