- From: Dirk Schnelle-Walka <dirk@switch-consulting.de>
- Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2025 16:41:49 +0200
- To: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
- Cc: public-voiceinteraction@w3.org
Hi Kazuyuki, thank you for the update. To me this looks better now. Thank you for your efforts on this. DIrk On 02/06/2025 14:46, Kazuyuki Ashimura wrote: > On Tue, 27 May 2025 15:02:26 +0900, > Kazuyuki Ashimura wrote: >> On Tue, 27 May 2025 00:13:48 +0900, >> Dirk Schnelle-Walka wrote: >>> [1 <text/plain; utf-8 (base64)>] >>> [2 <text/html; utf-8 (base64)>] >>> Hi Kazuyuki, >>> >>> Thank you for your prompt response. >>> >>> I think the mentioning of smart cars is fine as you have it. >> Thanks :) >> >>> Regarding the whitespace, I noticed that this always happens, if there are nested >>> <ul>-lists. The issue happens afterwards. >>> >>> Maybe, we should try to remove the whitespace in the CSS for that case? >> OK. I'll look into the CSS then. > I've jsut fixed the CSS slightly. > > Please see: https://w3c.github.io/smartagents-workshop/ > :) > > Thanks, > > Kazuyuki > > >> Thanks, >> >> Kazuyuki >> >> >>> Best regards, >>> Dirk >>> >>> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -------- >>> Von: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org> >>> Datum: 23.05.25 22:19 (GMT+01:00) >>> An: Dirk Schnelle-Walka <dirk@switch-consulting.de> >>> Cc: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>, public-voiceinteraction@w3.org >>> Betreff: Re: Updated README.md for the smart voice agent Workshop >>> >>> On Fri, 23 May 2025 23:03:59 +0900, >>> Dirk Schnelle-Walka wrote: >>>> [1 <text/plain; UTF-8 (8bit)>] >>>> [2 <text/html; UTF-8 (8bit)>] >>>> Thank you Kazuyuki, >>>> >>>> regarding >>>> >>>> Connected cars => Voice agents in connected cars >>>> >>>> Do we want to have it back? We may also edit the index.html. >>> Ah, sorry. My point was rather: >>> * As mentioned during the CG call on April 23, got a comment from the >>> Strategy Team to remove the term of "Connected cars". >>> * So I had changed "Connected cars" to "Smart cars". >>> * Also I merged the line of "Voice agents in Smart cars" with >>> the line of "Smart homes, smart factories, and smart cities". >>> (within the index.html). >>> >>>> There is also a bit of whitespace after >>>> >>>>> Lack of accountability: Identifying the root cause of errors in an LLM’s >>>> predictions can be challenging. >>> I think the width of the line is specifid by CSS, so we can make the >>> whitespace line narrower if we want. >>> >>>> We may want to adapt the HTML and correct the list item tags. >>> Yes, let's talk about the HTML style as well :) >>> >>>> Additionally, we need to continue our discussion regarding >>>>> The workshop is free, although you will need to email a brief proposal. Please >>>> see the @@@information for speakers@@@ for detail. >>> Right. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Kazuyuki >>> >>>> Dirk >>>> >>>> On 23/05/2025 08:54, Kazuyuki Ashimura wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Dirk, >>>> >>>> Thanks a lot for your edit! >>>> >>>> Based on your changes to README.md at: >>>> https://github.com/w3c/smartagents-workshop/blob/main/README.md >>>> >>>> I created the following two PRs: >>>> * https://github.com/w3c/smartagents-workshop/pull/1 >>>> * https://github.com/w3c/smartagents-workshop/pull/2 >>>> (then merged them :) >>>> >>>> and have updated the index.html at: >>>> https://w3c.github.io/smartagents-workshop/ >>>> >>>> Please note your change: >>>> Connected cars => Voice agents in connected cars >>>> within README.md was not applied, because there was no >>>> "Connected cars" within index.html any more. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Kazuyuki >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, 23 May 2025 04:01:24 +0900, >>>> Dirk Schnelle-Walka wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> [1 <text/plain; utf-8 (base64)>] >>>> [2 <text/html; utf-8 (base64)>] >>>> Hi everyone, hi Debbie and Kazuyuki, >>>> >>>> I made some first changes to https://github.com/w3c/smartagents-workshop >>> to >>>> focus more on voice than it is done at >>>> https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/507. >>>> >>>> I also reviewed the current ideas for the other workshop AI Agents & the Web. >>>> >>>> The AI Agents & the Web proposal for a W3C workshop focuses on user-friendly >>>> smart agents, but it does not focus specifically on voice agents. Instead, it has >>> a >>>> broader scope that includes: >>>> >>>> - Agent-user interaction models (text, GUI, voice, multimodal) >>>> - Agent-agent interaction and orchestration >>>> - Data portability and user control >>>> - Privacy, security, and trust >>>> - Standardization needs and gaps >>>> >>>> While voice is mentioned as one possible modality, it's not the central theme. >>>> The goal is to discuss smart agents more generally — including >>> conversational, >>>> embodied, or software-based agents — and how to make them user-friendly >>> and >>>> interoperable within the Web ecosystem. >>>> >>>> In contrast, the Smart Voice Agents Workshop (after my edits) does place more >>>> emphasis on voice agents including references to speech interfaces and the >>>> interaction between users and services via voice. >>>> >>>> So in summary: >>>> >>>> - Workshop AI Agents & the Web: Broad focus on smart agents; voice is just one >>>> aspect. >>>> - Workshop Smart Voice Agents : More specifically oriented toward voice >>> agents >>>> and their web integration. >>>> >>>> So, I see a completely different focus of these two, although they share some >>>> topics. I do not see a problem with that. In case, there are further concerns from >>>> the other workshop, I would try to argue removing the topic of voice >>> interaction >>>> from the other workshop. >>>> >>>> Please, feel encouraged to comment on my thoughts. >>>> >>>> I will take and break and review my edits in in a few days. >>>> Dirk
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