Re: Updated README.md for the smart voice agent Workshop

Hi Kazuyuki,

thank you for the update. To me this looks better now. Thank you for 
your efforts on this.

DIrk

On 02/06/2025 14:46, Kazuyuki Ashimura wrote:
> On Tue, 27 May 2025 15:02:26 +0900,
> Kazuyuki Ashimura wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 May 2025 00:13:48 +0900,
>> Dirk Schnelle-Walka wrote:
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>>> Hi Kazuyuki,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your prompt response.
>>>
>>> I think the mentioning of smart cars is fine as you have it.
>> Thanks :)
>>
>>> Regarding the whitespace, I noticed that this always happens, if there are nested
>>> <ul>-lists. The issue happens afterwards.
>>>
>>> Maybe, we should try to remove the whitespace in the CSS for that case?
>> OK. I'll look into the CSS then.
> I've jsut fixed the CSS slightly.
>
> Please see: https://w3c.github.io/smartagents-workshop/
> :)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kazuyuki
>
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kazuyuki
>>
>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Dirk
>>>
>>> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>> Von: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
>>> Datum: 23.05.25 22:19 (GMT+01:00)
>>> An: Dirk Schnelle-Walka <dirk@switch-consulting.de>
>>> Cc: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>, public-voiceinteraction@w3.org
>>> Betreff: Re: Updated README.md for the smart voice agent Workshop
>>>
>>> On Fri, 23 May 2025 23:03:59 +0900,
>>> Dirk Schnelle-Walka wrote:
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>>>> Thank you Kazuyuki,
>>>>
>>>> regarding
>>>>
>>>>   Connected cars => Voice agents in connected cars
>>>>
>>>> Do we want to have it back? We may also edit the index.html.
>>> Ah, sorry. My point was rather:
>>> * As mentioned during the CG call on April 23, got a comment from the
>>>    Strategy Team to remove the term of "Connected cars".
>>> * So I had changed "Connected cars" to "Smart cars".
>>> * Also I merged the line of "Voice agents in Smart cars" with
>>>    the line of "Smart homes, smart factories, and smart cities".
>>> (within the index.html).
>>>
>>>> There is also a bit of whitespace after
>>>>
>>>>> Lack of accountability: Identifying the root cause of errors in an LLM’s
>>>> predictions can be challenging.
>>> I think the width of the line is specifid by CSS, so we can make the
>>> whitespace line narrower if we want.
>>>
>>>> We may want to adapt the HTML and correct the list item tags.
>>> Yes, let's talk about the HTML style as well :)
>>>
>>>> Additionally, we need to continue our discussion regarding
>>>>> The workshop is free, although you will need to email a brief proposal. Please
>>>> see the @@@information for speakers@@@ for detail.
>>> Right.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Kazuyuki
>>>
>>>> Dirk
>>>>
>>>> On 23/05/2025 08:54, Kazuyuki Ashimura wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Hi Dirk,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot for your edit!
>>>>
>>>> Based on your changes to README.md at:
>>>>    https://github.com/w3c/smartagents-workshop/blob/main/README.md
>>>>
>>>> I created the following two PRs:
>>>> * https://github.com/w3c/smartagents-workshop/pull/1
>>>> * https://github.com/w3c/smartagents-workshop/pull/2
>>>> (then merged them :)
>>>>
>>>> and have updated the index.html at:
>>>>    https://w3c.github.io/smartagents-workshop/
>>>>
>>>> Please note your change:
>>>>    Connected cars => Voice agents in connected cars
>>>> within README.md was not applied, because there was no
>>>> "Connected cars" within index.html any more.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Kazuyuki
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 23 May 2025 04:01:24 +0900,
>>>> Dirk Schnelle-Walka wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   
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>>>> Hi everyone, hi Debbie and Kazuyuki,
>>>>
>>>> I made some first changes to https://github.com/w3c/smartagents-workshop
>>> to
>>>> focus more on voice than it is done at
>>>> https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/507.
>>>>
>>>> I also reviewed the current ideas for the other workshop AI Agents & the Web.
>>>>
>>>> The AI Agents & the Web proposal for a W3C workshop focuses on user-friendly
>>>> smart agents, but it does not focus specifically on voice agents. Instead, it has
>>> a
>>>> broader scope that includes:
>>>>
>>>> - Agent-user interaction models (text, GUI, voice, multimodal)
>>>> - Agent-agent interaction and orchestration
>>>> - Data portability and user control
>>>> - Privacy, security, and trust
>>>> - Standardization needs and gaps
>>>>
>>>> While voice is mentioned as one possible modality, it's not the central theme.
>>>> The goal is to discuss smart agents more generally — including
>>> conversational,
>>>> embodied, or software-based agents — and how to make them user-friendly
>>> and
>>>> interoperable within the Web ecosystem.
>>>>
>>>> In contrast, the Smart Voice Agents Workshop (after my edits) does place more
>>>> emphasis on voice agents including references to speech interfaces and the
>>>> interaction between users and services via voice.
>>>>
>>>> So in summary:
>>>>
>>>> - Workshop AI Agents & the Web: Broad focus on smart agents; voice is just one
>>>> aspect.
>>>> - Workshop Smart Voice Agents : More specifically oriented toward voice
>>> agents
>>>> and their web integration.
>>>>
>>>> So, I see a completely different focus of these two, although they share some
>>>> topics. I do not see a problem with that. In case, there are further concerns from
>>>> the other workshop,  I would try to argue removing the topic of voice
>>> interaction
>>>> from the other workshop.
>>>>
>>>> Please,  feel encouraged to comment on my thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> I will take and break and review my edits in in a few days.
>>>> Dirk

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