Re: Updated README.md for the smart voice agent Workshop

On Tue, 27 May 2025 15:02:26 +0900,
Kazuyuki Ashimura wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 27 May 2025 00:13:48 +0900,
> Dirk Schnelle-Walka wrote:
> > 
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> > Hi Kazuyuki,
> > 
> > Thank you for your prompt response.
> > 
> > I think the mentioning of smart cars is fine as you have it.
> 
> Thanks :)
> 
> > Regarding the whitespace, I noticed that this always happens, if there are nested
> > <ul>-lists. The issue happens afterwards.
> > 
> > Maybe, we should try to remove the whitespace in the CSS for that case?
> 
> OK. I'll look into the CSS then.

I've jsut fixed the CSS slightly.

Please see: https://w3c.github.io/smartagents-workshop/

:)

Thanks,

Kazuyuki


> Thanks,
> 
> Kazuyuki
> 
> 
> > Best regards,
> > Dirk
> > 
> > -------- Urspr¨¹ngliche Nachricht --------
> > Von: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org> 
> > Datum: 23.05.25 22:19 (GMT+01:00) 
> > An: Dirk Schnelle-Walka <dirk@switch-consulting.de> 
> > Cc: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>, public-voiceinteraction@w3.org 
> > Betreff: Re: Updated README.md for the smart voice agent Workshop 
> > 
> > On Fri, 23 May 2025 23:03:59 +0900,
> > Dirk Schnelle-Walka wrote:
> > > 
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> > > [2  <text/html; UTF-8 (8bit)>]
> > > Thank you Kazuyuki,
> > > 
> > > regarding
> > > 
> > >  Connected cars => Voice agents in connected cars
> > > 
> > > Do we want to have it back? We may also edit the index.html.
> > 
> > Ah, sorry. My point was rather:
> > * As mentioned during the CG call on April 23, got a comment from the
> >   Strategy Team to remove the term of "Connected cars".
> > * So I had changed "Connected cars" to "Smart cars".
> > * Also I merged the line of "Voice agents in Smart cars" with
> >   the line of "Smart homes, smart factories, and smart cities".
> > (within the index.html).
> > 
> > > There is also a bit of whitespace after
> > > 
> > > > Lack of accountability: Identifying the root cause of errors in an LLM¡¯s
> > > predictions can be challenging.
> > 
> > I think the width of the line is specifid by CSS, so we can make the
> > whitespace line narrower if we want.
> > 
> > > We may want to adapt the HTML and correct the list item tags.
> > 
> > Yes, let's talk about the HTML style as well :)
> > 
> > > Additionally, we need to continue our discussion regarding
> > > > The workshop is free, although you will need to email a brief proposal. Please
> > > see the @@@information for speakers@@@ for detail.
> > 
> > Right.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Kazuyuki
> > 
> > > Dirk
> > > 
> > > On 23/05/2025 08:54, Kazuyuki Ashimura wrote:
> > > 
> > >  Hi Dirk,
> > > 
> > > Thanks a lot for your edit!
> > > 
> > > Based on your changes to README.md at:
> > >   https://github.com/w3c/smartagents-workshop/blob/main/README.md

> > > 
> > > I created the following two PRs:
> > > * https://github.com/w3c/smartagents-workshop/pull/1

> > > * https://github.com/w3c/smartagents-workshop/pull/2

> > > (then merged them :)
> > > 
> > > and have updated the index.html at:
> > >   https://w3c.github.io/smartagents-workshop/

> > > 
> > > Please note your change:
> > >   Connected cars => Voice agents in connected cars
> > > within README.md was not applied, because there was no
> > > "Connected cars" within index.html any more.
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > Kazuyuki
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 23 May 2025 04:01:24 +0900,
> > > Dirk Schnelle-Walka wrote:
> > > 
> > >  
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> > > [2  <text/html; utf-8 (base64)>]
> > > Hi everyone, hi Debbie and Kazuyuki,
> > > 
> > > I made some first changes to https://github.com/w3c/smartagents-workshop

> > to
> > > focus more on voice than it is done at
> > > https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/507.

> > > 
> > > I also reviewed the current ideas for the other workshop AI Agents & the Web.
> > > 
> > > The AI Agents & the Web proposal for a W3C workshop focuses on user-friendly
> > > smart agents, but it does not focus specifically on voice agents. Instead, it has
> > a
> > > broader scope that includes:
> > > 
> > > - Agent-user interaction models (text, GUI, voice, multimodal)
> > > - Agent-agent interaction and orchestration
> > > - Data portability and user control
> > > - Privacy, security, and trust
> > > - Standardization needs and gaps
> > > 
> > > While voice is mentioned as one possible modality, it's not the central theme.
> > > The goal is to discuss smart agents more generally ¡ª including
> > conversational,
> > > embodied, or software-based agents ¡ª and how to make them user-friendly
> > and
> > > interoperable within the Web ecosystem.
> > > 
> > > In contrast, the Smart Voice Agents Workshop (after my edits) does place more
> > > emphasis on voice agents including references to speech interfaces and the
> > > interaction between users and services via voice.
> > > 
> > > So in summary:
> > > 
> > > - Workshop AI Agents & the Web: Broad focus on smart agents; voice is just one
> > > aspect.
> > > - Workshop Smart Voice Agents : More specifically oriented toward voice
> > agents
> > > and their web integration.
> > > 
> > > So, I see a completely different focus of these two, although they share some
> > > topics. I do not see a problem with that. In case, there are further concerns from
> > > the other workshop,  I would try to argue removing the topic of voice
> > interaction
> > > from the other workshop. 
> > > 
> > > Please,  feel encouraged to comment on my thoughts.
> > > 
> > > I will take and break and review my edits in in a few days.
> > > Dirk

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