Re: [Proposal] schema:OnlineCourse

Wes,

>From my experience...

CourseSection is an instance of a Course conducted over a Term usually with
a cohort (a collection of students and instructor(s)). Note that with the
emergence of Competency Based Education models that follow a self-paced
form of study, the concept of a Course Section may be less useful.

CourseSession is a single meeting - sometimes also called a Class (I'm
going to my class now).

A Course Section with 2 Class times per week conducted over 12 weeks would
have 24 Course Sessions or 24 Classes, Class times, Class meetings.

So I would argue that both Course Section and Course Session are real and
distinct things.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Wes Turner <wes.turner@gmail.com> wrote:

> re: CourseSession or CourseSection?
>
> From
> https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/195#issuecomment-77479627 :
>
> Is it CourseSession or CourseSection?
>> (It was CourseSession, but was changed without discussion to
>> CourseSection).
>>
>>    - I vote for "CourseSession". To me, Section implies a physical
>>    partitioning; which does not fit.
>>
>>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Wes Turner <wes.turner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> For schema:Course and schema:CourseSection there is a GitHub Issue and a
>> Google Doc:
>>
>> * https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/195
>> *
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12YWjLzZC8FiTiOwSAETRIEozeqZdn6O8a4fgqK4t5Ss/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> From the Google Doc (and GitHub Issue):
>>
>>
>>    - "Schema.org: Online Courses" *https://docs.google.com/document/d/12YWjLzZC8FiTiOwSAETRIEozeqZdn6O8a4fgqK4t5Ss/edit?usp=sharing
>>    <https://docs.google.com/document/d/12YWjLzZC8FiTiOwSAETRIEozeqZdn6O8a4fgqK4t5Ss/edit?usp=sharing>* (Working
>>    Proposal)
>>       - Thing > Intangible > Course
>>       - Thing > Intangible > CourseSection
>>       - Thing > Event > EducationEvent
>>
>> Re: Course of Study / Major
>>
>>    - Modeling traditional sets of prerequisites is a difficult problem.
>>    There are often ("either ors") which do require n-ary patterns. e.g. A ->
>>    (B or C or E) -> D -> F
>>       - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_connective#Natural_language
>>       - n-ary patterns are much easier with URIs (than with denormalized
>>       nested records)
>>       - http://patterns.dataincubator.org/book/nary-relation.html
>>    - Unbundling significantly alleviates this need (for structured
>>    traversal of a graph of Courses)
>>    - Coursera has a concept of "Specializations" [1]
>>
>>
>>>    - Master a skill with a targeted *sequence of courses*
>>>
>>>
>>>    - Apply it in a *capstone project*
>>>
>>>
>>    - The "subjectOfStudy" and/or "educationalAlignment" properties may
>>    be useful for linking to one or more "Course of Study" or "Major".
>>    - alignmentObject -> http://schema.org/AlignmentObject (LRMI:
>>       http://www.lrmi.net/the-specification)
>>
>>
>> [1] https://www.coursera.org/specializations
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Steve Scott <steve@courseload.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just a few opinions from the peanut gallery...
>>>
>>> I would avoid Class as a label for Course since it is most widely used
>>> to relate to the cohort attending a Course (my class == my classmates)
>>> and/or the time of meeting (my Bio Class is Tue at 9 - class == single
>>> class session).
>>>
>>> Instructional temporality is generally related to a "Term" to which a
>>> Course section belongs and inherits it's timeframe.
>>>
>>> "Course of Study" and "Major" are common synonyms in my experience
>>> working with higher ed.
>>>
>>> -Steve
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Vicki Tardif Holland <
>>> vtardif@google.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree that another term besides "Course" needs to be considered.
>>>> (Oddly enough, I attended a university that uses "course" the way other US
>>>> universities use "major", so I am sympathetic to the issues with the term.)
>>>>
>>>> Putting aside Course vs Class vs some other term for now, what is the
>>>> objection to a subclass for online sessions?
>>>>
>>>> - Vicki
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Vicki Tardif Holland | Ontologist | vtardif@google.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Jim Goodell <jgoodell2@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I used what seems to be the key points of consensus from comments
>>>>> posted to Vicki’s doc, and the thread, to mark up suggested changes to the
>>>>> proposal.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12YWjLzZC8FiTiOwSAETRIEozeqZdn6O8a4fgqK4t5Ss/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>
>>>>> -Jim Goodell
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>


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