- From: Jim Goodell <jimgoodell@qi-partners.com>
- Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2015 14:01:25 -0500
- To: Wes Turner <wes.turner@gmail.com>
- CC: Vicki Tardif Holland <vtardif@google.com>, Jim Goodell <jgoodell2@yahoo.com>, "public-vocabs@w3.org" <public-vocabs@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <D11E1215.68658%jimgoodell@qi-partners.com>
Wes, +1 to a property to differentiate between self-paced vs. fixed-pace. This is something that can apply to both physical and virtual/online courses. It could be an property of the Course design (creative work), or it could be an attribute of a instance of delivery, e.g. the same content offered in a fixed-pace instance and another Section of the same Course that allows students to go at their own pace. ³Self-paced² can apply even when there are start and end dates, e.g. One of my children is taking online courses that must be completed within a time frame, but every student in the class (Course Section) is working through the learning activities at their own pace. So a ³Self Paced² property should be clearly defined and non-ambiguous. The notion of start anytime, finish anytime (the class-central use case) might be handled as the absence of start and end dates, but that might be misinterpreted as meaning a Course Section is not yet scheduled. So maybe two properties are needed for the two different concepts, self-paced vs. fixed-pace and self-paced vs. no prescribed start and end dates. From: Wes Turner <wes.turner@gmail.com> Date: Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 12:51 PM To: Jim Goodell <jimgoodell@qi-partners.com> Cc: Vicki Tardif Holland <vtardif@google.com>, Jim Goodell <jgoodell2@yahoo.com>, "public-vocabs@w3.org" <public-vocabs@w3.org> Subject: Re: [Proposal] schema:OnlineCourse Class-central [1] differentiates between 'Self Paced' and 'courses with a start and end date'. [1] https://www.class-central.com/subject/cs On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Jim Goodell <jimgoodell@qi-partners.com> wrote: > I donıt think we had a strong objection to use of a subclass for the concept > of online course (and online course section), only a strong feeling that there > is a better option, i.e. just add a property to Course/CourseSection objects > to indicate that it is designed-for/offered ³online². It keeps things simple > and flexible. > > Others can chime in here. My perspective is based on this: CEDS stakeholders > looked into this and found that most of the properties are the same as > traditional courses. Properties that we might think of as unique to an online > course, such as ³Course Interaction Mode² (1), could also apply to blended > learning courses that involve both online and off line participation. So that > group opted to go with a ³Virtual Indicator² (2) flag rather than define a new > entity. > > -jim > > > (1) https://ceds.ed.gov/CEDSElementDetails.aspx?TermId=8277 > (2) https://ceds.ed.gov/CEDSElementDetails.aspx?TermId=8167 > > From: Vicki Tardif Holland <vtardif@google.com> > Date: Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 11:28 AM > To: Jim Goodell <jgoodell2@yahoo.com> > Cc: "public-vocabs@w3.org" <public-vocabs@w3.org> > Subject: Re: [Proposal] schema:OnlineCourse > Resent-From: <public-vocabs@w3.org> > Resent-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2015 16:29:07 +0000 > > I agree that another term besides "Course" needs to be considered. (Oddly > enough, I attended a university that uses "course" the way other US > universities use "major", so I am sympathetic to the issues with the term..) > > Putting aside Course vs Class vs some other term for now, what is the > objection to a subclass for online sessions? > > - Vicki > > > Vicki Tardif Holland | Ontologist | vtardif@google.com > > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:11 PM, Jim Goodell <jgoodell2@yahoo.com> wrote: >> I used what seems to be the key points of consensus from comments posted to >> Vickiıs doc, and the thread, to mark up suggested changes to the proposal. >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12YWjLzZC8FiTiOwSAETRIEozeqZdn6O8a4fgqK4t5 >> Ss/edit?usp=sharing >> >> -Jim Goodell >> >
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