- From: ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org>
- Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 13:47:22 +0200
- To: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
- CC: "public-vocabs@w3.org" <public-vocabs@w3.org>, Ralph Swick <swick@w3.org>
Hi Melvin, On 04/28/2015 09:12 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote: > On 28 April 2015 at 18:11, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org> > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Next week Social WG will gather in Paris for 3rd face to face >> meeting[1]. I proposed for the agenda topic of maintaining a 'living' >> vocabulary, already placing myself an image of xkcd:Standards (927)[2] >> next to it. >> >> I already made multiple attempts to clarify situation of depending on >> schema.org in W3C specs. To my understanding, as for today situation >> looks as follows: >> - W3C does NOT approve dependency on schema.org >> + W3C does approve dependency on microformats.org >> > > Could you explain in more detail why a dependency of schema.org is needed > or desirable? Please take a look at JSON-LD context which will accompany Core spec and Vocabulary spec https://github.com/jasnell/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/blob/master/activitystreams2-context.jsonld AS 2.0 core spec will make this context normative and require publishing JSON-LD in *compacted* form using this context during compacting. AFAIK W3C has no past experience in publishing normative JSON-LD contexts, so it seems that we deal with a new situation here. To my understanding, currently we can't for example use in this normative context alias "Give": "http://schema.org/GiveAction" so we currently end up with AS2.0 Vocabulary draft defining http://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-vocabulary/#dfn-give at the same time current draft of AS2.0 extended vocab doesn't define *Take*, so many people might in practice end up using http://schema.org/TakeAction by extending normative JSON-LD context themselves with something like "Take": "http://schema.org/TakeAction" or just "schema": "http://schema.org/" and use "schema:TakeAction" etc. here again we can run into collision of * http://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-vocabulary/#dfn-target * http://schema.org/target both having Action/Activity in range(Includes) but used very different purpose :S relevant issues open in Social WG ISSUE-16: better separate grammar/vocabulary and improved spec structure * https://www.w3.org/Social/track/issues/16 ISSUE-36: Role and evolution of recommended JSON-LD contexts * https://www.w3.org/Social/track/issues/36 We can discuss it in more depth next Tuesday, having it on agenda of our face 2 face meeting in Paris * https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-05-04#Day_2_-_Tuesday_5_May_2015 Cheers!
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