- From: Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 13:06:38 -0500
- To: John Walker <john.walker@semaku.com>
- Cc: Niklas Lindström <lindstream@gmail.com>, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org>, "public-vocabs@w3.org" <public-vocabs@w3.org>, Martin Hepp <mfhepp@gmail.com>
- Message-ID: <CAChbWaPgLLqghMOr17+mWZ-AiCVnmwbsq4YbOcrJYO0hJUSNAw@mail.gmail.com>
Yes iPhone is now a brand. But it did not start off that way was my point. Thad +ThadGuidry <https://www.google.com/+ThadGuidry> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 1:03 PM, John Walker <john.walker@semaku.com> wrote: > Hi Thad > > One might argue iPhone to be the brand. > > You may then have a hierarchy of schema:ProductModel (related via > schema:isVariantOf) for example the 'base' iPhone 6 with variants of memory > color etc. even those may have various manufacturing variants (different > chipsets, firmware etc.). > > An actual individual phone can then be related to the precise model via > schema:model as mentioned by Niklas. > > In some industries knowing the exact model can be very relevant due to > manufacturing location which may affect export control regulations. > > Regards, > > John > > On 10 Apr 2015, at 17:05, Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com> wrote: > > Niklas has another good approach. > > That is where you treat "The Fairphone" as the concept of "The 1st > Fairphone Model". There might be further models later, or there may never > be. > > Before iPhone 6 there was just the iPhone (1st gen) and it's productID was > actually lowercase "iphone" > > > Thad > +ThadGuidry <https://www.google.com/+ThadGuidry> > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I would suggest to use instead productID >> >> but looks like we need to expand it's datatype ? >> >> the productID is reserved for exactly your case (hard linking an >> individualProduct to a "product group" or productID... >> however the problem is that the datatype is only text at the moment. >> >> >> Thad >> +ThadGuidry <https://www.google.com/+ThadGuidry> >> >> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Niklas Lindström <lindstream@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> You could use sdo:model to link to a sdo:ProductModel, like: >>> >>> { >>> "@id": "https://www.fairphone.com/fairphone", >>> "@type": "ProductModel", >>> "name": "The Fairphone" >>> } >>> >>> { >>> "@id": " >>> https://graph.wwelves.org/704e3a57-c09e-4846-b27a-d31854096572" >>> "@type": "IndividualProduct", >>> "model": {"@id": "https://www.fairphone.com/fairphone"}, >>> "name": "A Fairphone currently used by elf Pavlik", >>> "serialNumber": "2092043924022" >>> } >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Niklas >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 4:39 PM, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ < >>> perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On 04/10/2015 04:27 PM, Thad Guidry wrote: >>>> > I would explain it as: >>>> > http://schema.org/Product is really "Product Category Offered". >>>> You could >>>> > also think "Product Class Offered" or "Product Group Offered" if it >>>> helps. >>>> > >>>> > beneath that you might have 5 laptops that you are offering to sell >>>> as a >>>> > product... so each one....is an http://schema.org/IndividualProduct >>>> > >>>> > Fairphone is definitely a http://schema.org/Product each >>>> individual one >>>> > (with it's unique IMEI code) is a http://schema.org/IndividualProduct >>>> > >>>> > You can also say: >>>> > http://schema.org/IndividualProduct can be registered by users using >>>> their >>>> > IMEI, Serial #, etc... something that uniquely ties that individual >>>> product >>>> > to that customer. >>>> > >>>> > Only put things that are individually unique for a particular IMEI, >>>> Serial >>>> > #, etc... against the http://schema.org/IndividualProduct >>>> > One thing that you can put against that >>>> http://schema.org/IndividualProduct >>>> > is actually a chipset firmware version ... because sometimes some >>>> folks get >>>> > version A1 and later on in production the rest of the users might be >>>> > getting version A2, etc... if you have that kind of data...that would >>>> go >>>> > under http://schema.org/IndividualProduct rather than saying ALL >>>> your >>>> > Fairphones have version A2 by putting ia firmware version under >>>> > http://schema.org/Product >>>> Thanks Thad, makes sense but I still don't find answer to my question. >>>> >>>> How exactly do I link an IndividualProduct >>>> { >>>> "@id": " >>>> https://graph.wwelves.org/704e3a57-c09e-4846-b27a-d31854096572" >>>> "@type": "IndividualProduct", >>>> "name": "A Fairphone currently used by elf Pavlik", >>>> "serialNumber": "2092043924022" >>>> } >>>> >>>> to the Product >>>> >>>> { >>>> "@id": "https://www.fairphone.com/fairphone", >>>> "@type": "Product", >>>> "name": "The Fairphone" >>>> } >>>> >>>> ? >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Thad >>>> > +ThadGuidry <https://www.google.com/+ThadGuidry> >>>> > >>>> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 8:52 AM, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ < >>>> > perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Hello, >>>> >> >>>> >> Looking at >>>> >> * http://schema.org/Product >>>> >> "Any offered product or service. For example: a pair of shoes; a >>>> >> concert ticket; the rental of a car; a haircut; or an episode of a TV >>>> >> show streamed online." >>>> >> * http://schema.org/IndividualProduct >>>> >> "A single, identifiable product instance (e.g. a laptop with a >>>> >> particular serial number)." >>>> >> >>>> >> I struggle to understand how I can specify for IndividualProduct just >>>> >> URI of the relevant Product. For example >>>> >> >>>> >> { >>>> >> "@id": "https://www.fairphone.com/fairphone", >>>> >> "@type": "Product", >>>> >> "name": "The Fairphone" >>>> >> } >>>> >> >>>> >> { >>>> >> "@id": " >>>> https://graph.wwelves.org/704e3a57-c09e-4846-b27a-d31854096572" >>>> >> "@type": "IndividualProduct", >>>> >> "name": "A Fairphone currently used by elf Pavlik", >>>> >> "serialNumber": "2092043924022" >>>> >> } >>>> >> >>>> >> I understand that I could *duplicate* all the values of properties >>>> from >>>> >> * https://www.fairphone.com/fairphone >>>> >> on >>>> >> * https://graph.wwelves.org/704e3a57-c09e-4846-b27a-d31854096572 >>>> >> But I would prefer to just reference it by URI and if needed embed >>>> >> information about Product resource in document describing >>>> >> IndividualProduct resource. And the generic data about Product would >>>> >> keep https://www.fairphone.com/fairphone as its subject. >>>> >> >>>> >> Thank you for help with understanding how to do that, or pointing out >>>> >> flaws in my approach. >>>> >> >>>> >> Cheers! >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
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