- From: Vicki Tardif Holland <vtardif@google.com>
- Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 15:57:18 -0500
- To: Aaron Bradley <aaranged@gmail.com>
- Cc: Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com>, Yuliya Tihohod <tilid@yandex-team.ru>, W3C Web Schemas Task Force <public-vocabs@w3.org>, Tom Marsh <tmarsh@exchange.microsoft.com>, Alexander Shubin <ajax@yandex-team.ru>, Peter Mika <pmika@yahoo-inc.com>
- Message-ID: <CAOr1obFQ1u3_FtADvxK48PwyQcuNhtNSfBenbkK3FXfUKVnvNA@mail.gmail.com>
+1 to a more generic description. I don't see the point in getting overly specific with the role-playing part. Solitaire is a game where numberOfPlayers is 1. We don't necessarily need to limit the type to items which use all of the properties. - Vicki Vicki Tardif Holland | Ontologist | vtardif@google.com On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Aaron Bradley <aaranged@gmail.com> wrote: > > The most obvious fix would be for Game to become > > RolePlayingGame, which avoids us getting all Wittgenstein on the > > "what's a game" issue. > > I think the most obvious fix would be to make the description generic and > not wake Ludwig at all (this release adds the property "sport" as a > property for "SportsOrganization" so there's work for him a-plenty if he's > aroused anyway). > > I say this largely because Game works with the more specific type > VideoGame. RolePlayingGame does *not* work as more general type for > VideoGame, as of course not all video games are role-playing game - not > even the majority of them. > > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com> wrote: > >> +Yuliya >> >> On 17 November 2014 20:06, Aaron Bradley <aaranged@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Looks great! A note just on the description for: >> > http://sdo-venkman.appspot.com/Game >> > >> > Which is: >> > "A role-playing game is a game in which players assume the roles of >> > characters in a fictional setting." >> > >> > I think this description was carried over from an earlier context in >> which >> > this did describe a role-playing game specifically. In any case, >> obviously >> > a more generic description is required (especially as Monopoly is used >> in >> > the code example - and while I do adopt the persona of Andrew Carnegie >> when >> > I play, it's not a role-playing game:). >> >> I agree - I just noticed that, I had mistakenly thought 'Game' was >> completely replaced with 'VideoGame'. At least the type name and >> definition here seem at very different levels of generality. Yuliya, >> any suggestions? The most obvious fix would be for Game to become >> RolePlayingGame, which avoids us getting all Wittgenstein on the >> "what's a game" issue. >> >> Dan >> >> > On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> >> >> Short version: we think we're pretty much done with a new release, see >> >> http://sdo-venkman.appspot.com/docs/releases.html#sdo-venkman >> >> >> >> >> >> Followers of schema.org may have noticed that we haven't made a new >> >> release >> >> of the site since mid-September. However if you have been following >> along >> >> on >> >> Github you'll notice that we have been busy integrating quite a few >> >> proposals >> >> and fixes. These are available in Git and as a test site as >> >> "sdo-venkman"(*). >> >> >> >> Pending changes are recorded in docs/releases.html: >> >> >> >> http://sdo-venkman.appspot.com/docs/releases.html#sdo-venkman >> >> >> >> The underlying schemas, examples, code all lives in Github at: >> >> >> >> https://github.com/danbri/schemaorg/tree/sdo-venkman >> >> >> >> There are still a few issues we hope to address before publishing these >> >> changes, see https://github.com/rvguha/schemaorg/issues for details. >> In >> >> particular, we expect to address >> >> https://github.com/rvguha/schemaorg/issues/148 >> >> (VideoGameSeries). We also solicit advice on the proposed type for >> dated >> >> monetary values - see >> >> http://sdo-venkman.appspot.com/docs/releases.html#dated-money >> >> ... as we are not sure whether DatedMoneyValue would be better than the >> >> current proposal of DatedMoneyspecification. Former is shorter, latter >> is >> >> closer >> >> to some existing type names. >> >> >> >> Comments are welcome as always here or in Github (file an issue there >> >> for bugs or comment in an existing entry), or anywhere in the Web that >> >> has a URL. >> >> >> >> Since this update will cover a lot of topics, please re-title the >> >> mail thread to indicate more specific topics. This is a large set of >> >> changes so >> >> there are bound to be a few bugs. If we can steer comments towards >> >> specifics >> >> and away from re-opening design earlier discussions that would help in >> >> getting these improvements published. >> >> >> >> Many thanks for your perspective, >> >> >> >> cheers, >> >> >> >> Dan, >> >> for schema.org. >> >> >> >> >> >> (*) >> >> Ghostbusters-based codenames let us choose version numbers later. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghostbusters#Cast >> >> (next release will be sdo-stantz...) >> >> >> > >> > >
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