Re: Proposal: Organization dissolutionDate

On Aug 28, 2013, at 3:35 PM, James McKinney wrote:

> Thad: I don't understand. I am proposing a term that should imply the dissolving of an organization, therefore dissolutionDate is appropriate.
> 
> An organization can continue to exist despite being defunct. I am proposing a property that describes the date on which the organization ceases to exist - like deathDate for a Person.
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> If we were to use a term with the word "end" in it, it would probably be "endDate", but that is already used by Event http://schema.org/Event To avoid confusion, I think a more distinct term should be used in this case.
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In general, I think we should strive to use *the same* name for properties that represent the same meaning, even for very different types, so e.g. the properties validFrom and validThrough could be used for a broader set of types, if it is feasible to find a common textual definition for all usages.

Martin



> James
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> On 2013-08-27, at 11:28 PM, Thad Guidry wrote:
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>> Now that I think about it more... just a simple "endedDate" or "dateEnded" might be generic enough ?
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>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Defunct Organization" is a type in Freebase, but I am not too keen for a property called "defunctDate"... perhaps there's a generic term like "defunct" that does not imply a dissolving of an organization ?  Otherwise... dissolutionDate might be a good enough pick.
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>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:25 PM, James McKinney <james@opennorth.ca> wrote:
>> I propose adding a single property "dissolutionDate" to the Organization class.
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>> The Organization class already has a foundingDate property.
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>> Of the words used to describe the end of an organization, "dissolution" seems to be the most appropriate in terms of meaning, usage and geographic coverage. Other words include "liquidation", "termination" and "cessation". Liquidation implies a particular process that not all organizations necessarily go through when they end. In most cases, dissolution and termination are synonymous. However, in the case of partnerships, dissolution may sometimes refer to the date on which the legal entity ceases operation, but before it is officially would up and terminated. I believe in most cases, users care about the date on which operations end, not the date on which all the i's are dotted and t's are crossed on all paperwork relating to the dissolution. Cessation may be confused with a business temporarily becoming inactive and then resuming activity. "Dissolution" seems to be the best term.
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>> Prior work includes vCard 4.0, which has a DEATHDATE property [1], but that doesn't fit semantically with organizations, because organizations do not "die". There is also the dateOfTermination property defined by [2] and [3] below.
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>> Here is the proposal in the wiki: http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/dissolutionDate#Usage
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>> James
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>> 1. http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6474#section-2.3
>> 2. http://d-nb.info/standards/elementset/gnd#dateOfTermination
>> 3. http://metadataregistry.org/schemaprop/show/id/852.html
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