Schema.org Required Properties (Was "Re: Issue with rich snippets tools testing tool & businessEvent")

Hi Mark and  Jocelyn,

On 1/23/2012 6:34 PM, Jocelyn Fournier wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> Le 23/01/12 09:01, Mark Keller a écrit :
>> Hello Jocelyn,
>>
>> (Looping in the group to our conversation)
>>
>> I definitely see what you are saying about it being a link to the page
>> with the structured markup.
>>
>> If you are going to markup the url for an itemtype of Event, you will
>> most likely need to include the name, url, and startDate at a minimum.
>
> Actually I was considering (perhaps wrongly) if a url property is 
> used, whatever the itemtype, there shouldn't be any other markup since 
> it should be described on the target page (as long as it's on the same 
> domain). Otherwise it's just redundant informations; and in my case 
> since I doesn't display the startDate, it would force me to use hidden 
> properties. As for the name, I assume it should (could ?) extract it 
> from the url anchor text ?
Indeed, according with the Schema.org documentation 
<http://schema.org/docs/gs.html#schemaorg_expected> (see also my email 
on Intended types 
<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-vocabs/2011Nov/0039.html>)

<div itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/SportsEvent">
   <a href="http://www.london2012.com/"*itemprop="url"*>London 2012 Olympics</a>
</div>

should be valid.

As a general rule I would say one should *annotate as much as possible*.

All the best,
Adrian Giurca
>
>>
>> I would like to quote the example on the Schema.org website, the Event
>> itemtype page, where they gave this example of a url inside of the
>> itemtype Event markup.
>>
>>  1. <divitemprop="events"itemscopeitemtype="http://schema.org/Event">
>>  2. <ahref="foo-fighters-may23-midamericacenter"itemprop="url">
>>  3. <spanitemprop="name">Mid America Center</span>
>>  4. </a>
>>  5. <spanitemprop="location">Council Bluffs, IA, US</span>
>>  6. <metaitemprop="startDate"content="2011-05-23">May 23
>>  7. <ahref="ticketmaster.com/foofighters/may23-2011
>> <http://ticketmaster.com/foofighters/may23-2011>"itemprop="offers">Buy
>>     tickets</a>
>>  8. </div>
>>
>>
>> I have not found a way to properly create links with itemtype Events in
>> the fashion you mentioned ( other than marking up all the required
>> information ).
>>
>> I am not saying this is not a bug, just my 2cents...
>
> Yup, some clarifications would be helpful in this case :)
>
> Best Regards,
>   Jocelyn Fournier
>
>