- From: Dawson, Laura <Laura.Dawson@bowker.com>
- Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 07:33:51 -0400
- To: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>
- CC: Public Vocabs <public-vocabs@w3.org>, "Suliman, Suraiya H" <suraiya.h.suliman@lmco.com>, Greg Grossmeier <greg@creativecommons.org>, Thomas Baker <tom@tombaker.org>, Stuart Sutton <sasutton@dublincore.net>
Could identifiers help with this issue? In the commercial book world we have ISTC, which identifies a textual work. This is distinct from the ISBN, which identifies an edition specific to a carrier (or a "container", as we're coming to call it). ISTC merely identifies the string of text, independent of the carrier. So one ISTC could have many ISBNs related to it. It's a lot less rigid than FRBR - less hierarchical and more "webby". On Aug 28, 2012, at 5:38 AM, "Dan Brickley" <danbri@danbri.org> wrote: > Thanks all. Yes, FRBR is quite another level of complexity, although > it is driven by the same concerns Richard mentioned - the concern to > distinguish works in the abstract from the particularities of their > various practical forms. And to be able to describe useful properties > of both without getting into a muddle. > > These are not new distinctions and as Martin and Ivan point out, we > should take care not to re-use existing phrases (like 'media type') in > unfamiliar ways. Or for that matter to arbitrarily introduce new > wording for existing concepts; or if we do, at least we should > document the relationships. > > Dublin Core makes some related distinctions. Compare ... > > http://dublincore.org/documents/2012/06/14/dcmi-terms/?v=terms#terms-format > "The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource." > "Examples of dimensions include size and duration. Recommended best > practice is to use a controlled vocabulary such as the list of > Internet Media Types [MIME]." > > http://dublincore.org/documents/2012/06/14/dcmi-terms/?v=terms#terms-type > "The nature or genre of the resource." > "Recommended best practice is to use a controlled vocabulary such as > the DCMI Type Vocabulary [DCMITYPE]. To describe the file format, > physical medium, or dimensions of the resource, use the Format > element." > > A fairly short list of DCMI Types seems to be at > http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-type-vocabulary/#H6 (scroll down > a bit...) or see also > http://dublincore.org/documents/2000/07/11/dcmi-type-vocabulary/ > > I didn't find a list yet corresponding to the granularity of Greg's > request, but maybe I missed it. Tom, Stuart ... any pointers? > >> From Greg's mail... > > - Audio CD > - Audiotape > - Calculator > - CD-I > - CD-ROM > - Diskette > - Duplication Master > - DVD/ Blu-ray > - etc > > These seem closer to 'dc:format' to me, but also seem to emphasise > supporting physical hardware - rather than types of media. I find it > hard to think of 'Calculator' as a media type, for example. > > Greg, Suraiya, ... can you say a bit more about your usage scenario? > What kind of record would 'Calculator' or 'Duplication Master' appear > in, for example? > > cheers, > > Dan >
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