- From: Tantek Çelik <tantek@cs.stanford.edu>
- Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 14:40:09 -0700
- To: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>
- Cc: George Katsanos <gkatsanos@gmail.com>, public-vocabs@w3.org, Uldis Bojars <captsolo@gmail.com>, microformats-discuss <microformats-discuss@microformats.org>
That's quite a good list of resources Dan! Specifically, you mentioned: > As usual, the Microformats community have already been quite active in > researching this topic; you should check out > http://microformats.org/wiki/resume-formats and if you prefer to keep > notes in their (public domain licensed) wiki, that's great; just drop > in a link from the W3C page. Or add to both. I'd like to reiterate that invitation to everyone, please feel free to add any known/previous formats for resumes to existing public domain microformats research on the subject, and use existing research as you see fit - that's what it's there for as a community resource: http://microformats.org/wiki/resume-formats But there's one big link that Dan surprisingly missed: hResume http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume Developed using aforementioned research in combination with research on actual resume publishing practices on the web. Two key things here: 1. hResume is the most published resume format on the web (for several years now) http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume-examples-in-wild from over 10 million resumes on LinkedIn - all marked up with hResume to numerous long tail examples, tons of individuals who've posted their resumes online with hResume. If you're looking at writing a resume search or similar application, that's a good place to start. 2. hResume is also well implemented, with numerous generating and parsing/consuming applications/sites. E.g the Guardian's jobs/resume aggregator site imports hResumes: http://jobs.guardian.co.uk/profile/ More listed here: http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume#Implementations Take a look and see if hResume works for your Curriculum Vitae (resumé) schema purposes, if it doesn't please send feedback about what problems/issues you run into so that it can be improved accordingly. As this is already a vocabulary (and format) in wide usage, I'm cc-ing microformats-discuss for feedback/iteration. Feel free to join irc://irc.freenode.net/microformats for more real-time follow-up/discussion. Thanks, Tantek 2011/10/7 Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>: > +Cc: Uldis, who worked on this topic a while back > > 2011/10/7 George Katsanos <gkatsanos@gmail.com>: >> Dear all, >> Wouldn't it be possible to have a schema "template" (type?) for semantically >> describing CV's? It would also be a good opportunity for the job recruiting >> market to adopt this standard as currently the situation is chaotic between >> different file formats. > > There has been a little discussion of this already, e.g. > http://groups.google.com/group/schemaorg-discussion/browse_thread/thread/b7b6f259bd726047/f991c2097fd08667?lnk=gst&q=CV#f991c2097fd08667 > > Let's break this into two parts. First, what's out there in terms of > existing vocabularies, standards and data. Secondly, whether the > Schema.org project (or others) decide to pick this up and include > directly. > > Can I persuade you to help test out our new tooling by getting set up > with a W3C account (http://www.w3.org/Help/Account/) and doing some > background research in the Wiki? Just make a page near > http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas and link it (we should sort out a > category structure at some point...). > > Some related work: > > * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Description_of_a_Career ("designed to > be compatible with the European curriculum (Europass) ") > http://schemapedia.com/schemas/doac > * http://rdfs.org/resume-rdf/ > http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/Europe/events/foaf-galway/papers/pp/extending_foaf_with_resume/ > * Europass / CV, > http://europass.cedefop.europa.eu/europass/home/vernav/Europass+Documents/Europass+CV.csp > http://myeurocv.com/ > > As usual, the Microformats community have already been quite active in > researching this topic; you should check out > http://microformats.org/wiki/resume-formats and if you prefer to keep > notes in their (public domain licensed) wiki, that's great; just drop > in a link from the W3C page. Or add to both. > > The hardest problem here will be scoping. We will want some way of > describing topics of people's expertise, without including a giant > enumeration of all skill areas. > > A few brief points: > > SKOS > I'd encourage the use of SKOS here, since the library world have > already created a collaborative map of most of these topics, via > thesauri and subject classification schemes, most of which are now > being shared in RDF via SKOS. So for example, see > http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/SKOS/Datasets or > http://thedatahub.org/dataset?tags=format-skos to see a high level > overview of the SKOS datasets that are out there. In SKOS, we already > have the Library of Congress assigning the URI > http://id.loc.gov/authorities/sh85086421#concept to the notion of > "Model Theory". So if someone (e.g. Pat Hayes) wanted to record such > expertise in their CV/resume, ideally we could re-use such a list of > topics (and some would build nice auto-completion tooling to support > data entry). > > LRMI > http://wiki.creativecommons.org/LRMI > "The Learning Resource Metadata Initiative is a project co-led by the > Association of Educational Publishers and Creative Commons to build a > common metadata vocabulary for educational resources." > ...the overlap here is around describing skills and topics of > expertise; either those required to understand some learning materials > (eg. what knowledge do I need, to understand > http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/mathematics/18-06-linear-algebra-spring-2010/video-lectures/ > ? or what knowledge have I gained, if I do the online class at > http://ml-class.org/ ?) > > ODF 1.2 > http://rdfa.info/2011/10/06/odf-1-2-approved-as-standard-now-with-rdfa/ > http://www.robweir.com/blog/2011/09/odf12-approved.html > "Open Document Format (ODF) 1.2 has been approved. It is now an OASIS > Standard." > It uses RDFa, see > http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/10/odf-enters-semantic-web.html > ... real world resumes and CVs are created using wordprocessing tools. > It would be worthwhile looking at the related standards in this area, > and possibility for tool support e.g. via CV/resume templates. > > > Finally, from the Schema.org perspective, if you want to propose > something for inclusion, take a look through > http://schema.org/docs/full.html to understand where it might fit, how > it relates to other areas of vocabulary. But the most important thing > is the background research and some practical examples. > > I know a lot of folk are interested in this topic and there are a few > more projects and initiatives I didn't list in this quick email (e.g. > around describing jobs and training opportunities). It is worth > collecting up background materials. > > With my FOAF project "hat" on, I'd really love to see progress in this > area, and think that SKOS is probably the biggest and most interesting > contribution that is missing from previous standards work.... > > cheers, > > Dan > > -- http://tantek.com/ - I made an HTML5 tutorial! http://tantek.com/html5
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