- From: Jeni Tennison <jeni@jenitennison.com>
- Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 08:29:24 +0000
- To: Aaron Bradley <aaranged@yahoo.com>
- Cc: Tim van Oostrom <tim@depulz.nl>, "public-vocabs@w3.org" <public-vocabs@w3.org>
Hi,
Just to point out that in something like:
<div itemprop="breadcrumb">
<a href="category/books.html">Books</a> >
<a href="category/books-literature.html">Literature & Fiction</a> >
<a href="category/books-classics">Classics</a>
</div>
the 'breadcrumb' property actually takes the value "Books > Literature & Fiction > Classics" (whitespace normalised for brevity). So whether or not they have <a> elements wrapped around individual words doesn't matter: a conformant microdata processor won't see them anyway.
I've raised this before, but it is still not clear to me whether
a. schema.org consumers only want that plain text string;
b. schema.org consumers are preserving the HTML content (contrary to the microdata spec); or
c. the examples are wrong and the itemprop should be on individual breadcrumb items
Cheers,
Jeni
On 16 Dec 2011, at 23:30, Aaron Bradley wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for weighing in, Tom.
>
> In this case, though, all the examples explicitly show all breadcrumb links belonging to one itemprop - what they omit is an additional, unlinked "breadcrumb" component.
>
> See on http://schema.org/WebPage:
>
> <div itemprop="breadcrumb">
> <a href="category/books.html">Books</a> >
> <a href="category/books-literature.html">Literature & Fiction</a> >
> <a href="category/books-classics">Classics</a>
> </div>
>
>
> By the way, the separate page identifier in the <h1> I wouldn't have a problem handling (it's not a breadcrumb) - it's the additional component on the same line. E.g. (and this is the syntax I'm leaning towards - *not* including the unlinked item in the breadcrumb declaration):
>
>
> <div>
>
> <span itemprop="breadcrumb">
> <a href="category/books.html">Books</a> >
> <a href="category/books-literature.html">Literature & Fiction</a> >
> <a href="category/books-classics">Classics</a></span> >
> Boring Classics
> </div>
> <h1>Boring Classics</h1>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Tim van Oostrom <tim@depulz.nl>
>> To: public-vocabs@w3.org
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 2:26:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: Syntax for itemprop breadcrumb
>>
>> Hi Aaron,
>> I personally interpreted breadcrumb like:
>>
>> <div itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Thing";>
>> <a href="category/books.html"
>> itemprop="breadcrumb">Books</a> >
>> <a href="category/books-literature.html"
>> itemprop="breadcrumb">Literature& Fiction</a> >
>> <a href="category/books-classics"
>> itemprop="breadcrumb">Classics</a> >
>> Boring Classics
>> <h1 itemprop="name">Boring Classics</h1>
>> </div>
>>
>>
>> 1 breadcrumb per Item/Link (semantically more obvious and less work to
>> determine what is what?)
>>
>> You'd have a list of breadcrumb(s). This should however be an ordered list.
>>
>> - Tim
>>
>>> In breadcrumb display, the unlinked current page or section is often
>> displayed in the same line as the linked parents. E.g.:
>>>
>>> <div><a href="/">Home</a> | About
>> us</div>
>>>
>>> Should this unlinked portion be ("About us" in the example above)
>> be included in the breadcrumb itemprop or excluded from it? 1 or 2 below?
>>>
>>>
>>> 1 - Unlinked portion part of breadcrumb itemprop
>>>
>>> <div itemprop="breadcrumb">
>>> <a href="category/books.html">Books</a> >
>>> <a
>> href="category/books-literature.html">Literature&
>> Fiction</a> >
>>> <a href="category/books-classics">Classics</a>
>>>
>>> Boring Classics
>>> </div>
>>>
>>> 2 - Unlinked portion not a part of breadcrumb itemprop
>>>
>>> <div>
>>> <span itemprop="breadcrumb">
>>> <a href="category/books.html">Books</a> >
>>> <a
>> href="category/books-literature.html">Literature&
>> Fiction</a> >
>>> <a
>> href="category/books-classics">Classics</a></span>
>>>
>>> Boring Classics
>>> </div>
>>>
>>> None of the schema.org examples show this use case.
>>>
>>> See also this same question on a G+ post - feel free to comment there.
>>> https://plus.google.com/106943062990152739506/posts/Bf5ZYWkVtM1
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Aaron
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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Jeni Tennison
http://www.jenitennison.com
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