- From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
- Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 15:46:15 +0000
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Thanks all for attending today’s TTWG meeting. Minutes can be found in HTML format at https://www.w3.org/2023/10/12-tt-minutes.html
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[1]W3C
[1] https://www.w3.org/
– DRAFT –
Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
12 October 2023
[2]Previous meeting. [3]Agenda. [4]IRC log.
[2] https://www.w3.org/2023/09/28-tt-minutes.html
[3] https://github.com/w3c/ttwg/issues/266
[4] https://www.w3.org/2023/10/12-tt-irc
Attendees
Present
Andreas, Atsushi, Matt, Nigel, Pierre
Regrets
Cyril, Gary
Chair
Nigel
Scribe
nigel
Contents
1. [5]This Meeting
2. [6]DAPT
1. [7]Horizontal Review
2. [8]Wide Review
3. [9]Pull Request and Issue review
4. [10]Redraft opening section of §2.1 w3c/dapt#183
5. [11]Rework audio description original and translation
languages w3c/dapt#179
6. [12]Other DAPT matters
3. [13]W3C response to the DVB liaison
4. [14]Meeting close
Meeting minutes
This Meeting
Nigel: Given the regrets, and who can make it today, I think
we'll be mainly talking
… about DAPT pull requests where there's been some discussion
… I don't think there's anything to discuss re IMSC-HRM right
now
… Any other business, or points to make sure we cover?
Andreas: Yes, the response to the DVB liaison
Nigel: Apologies, I saw you wanted to discuss that and forgot
to add it to the agenda.
… Consider it added.
DAPT
Horizontal Review
Nigel: Current status is we have a completed review from
Privacy and from Internationalisation
… and we are awaiting reviews from the other HR groups.
Atsushi: TAG colleagues have labelled the DAPT request as
Accessibility
… It's in the accessibility track. I'm not sure why/how they
are thinking, but they tagged it that way.
Nigel: Thank you, I didn't notice that.
Atsushi: I suppose TAG colleagues just wanted to hear from
Accessibility colleagues about their concerns
… or views, but I'm not sure what is their actual intention.
Nigel: OK, thank you
Wide Review
Nigel: We had some great feedback from DVW that Cyril raised as
an issue, initially.
… It seemed to fit better as a Discussion, so I moved it to
one:
[15]Specification review by DVW w3c/dapt#187
[15] https://github.com/w3c/dapt/discussions/187
Nigel: So feel free to raise other discussions, or to comment
on each thread within the DVW review discussion page.
… This is a good pattern for other discussion topics too,
potentially.
Pull Request and Issue review
Redraft opening section of §2.1 [16]w3c/dapt#183
[16] https://github.com/w3c/dapt/issues/183
github: [17]w3c/dapt#183
[17] https://github.com/w3c/dapt/pull/183
Nigel: I made some more edits yesterday, Matt reviewed and
approved.
… I just wanted to check in and understand what problems
remain.
Andreas: Reiterate that if other reviewers are happy, then we
can go ahead.
… If these terms are as used in the domain, it's fine.
… I thought there were some cases were the term script on its
own is used generically, like in Script Type
Nigel: I can't see that.
Andreas: It's in §2.2.1 3rd bullet
Nigel: Ah, thank you, I will fix that.
… I'll also do another check through for any other instances of
this.
Andreas: I found one other place, in the same section, below
the first example, 2nd paragraph.
… "The first example shows a script where ..."
Nigel: Yes, I see what you mean.
… Apologies I didn't catch those before and resolve them. I
will look for others, also if you
… find any more please let me know.
Andreas: Yes, will do.
SUMMARY: Remove standalone term "script" when it means script
or transcript.
Rework audio description original and translation languages
[18]w3c/dapt#179
[18] https://github.com/w3c/dapt/issues/179
github: [19]w3c/dapt#179
[19] https://github.com/w3c/dapt/pull/179
Nigel: I think the issues have now been resolved by removing
Text Language Source for non-translated content,
… and having it set to the source language for translated
content.
… The latest commits should express that.
Andreas: I will review offline.
Nigel: Thank you.
Other DAPT matters
Nigel: I raised an issue to add an editorial comment somewhere
about the potential other uses
… of DAPT including using an Original Transcript as a
post-production script.
… Matt raised this originally
Matt: I haven't any specific wording off the top of my head but
am happy to review a pull request
Nigel: I'll work on that.
W3C response to the DVB liaison
[Matt leaves due to time constraints]
Nigel: I haven't drafted anything specific here.
Andreas: I think it would be good for TTWG to send something
out as soon as possible.
… We have the discussion, and it's more or less finished. We
just need the summary to send back
… so I would suggest that we try to agree on a draft offline
before the next meeting, just so we can send something
… that the DVB can work with.
Nigel: I think the action is on me to draft that, though I will
take volunteers!
Andreas: I would be happy if Nigel could sum it up.
… All of the comments would be very useful to have.
Nigel: I think it is important that we send our feedback, given
the nature of what we discussed.
Andreas: [summarises briefly the discussion from TPAC]
Nigel: Ok, I will try to bump that up my list of things that
need reviewing.
Pierre: I'm happy to review or contribute especially on the
player model
Nigel: That's helpful, thank you, I would love to take you up
on that.
Andreas: Thanks Pierre.
Meeting close
Nigel: We've finished our agenda for today. Let's adjourn.
Thank you everyone.
… See you in a couple of weeks [adjourns meeting]
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