RE: audio elements in vertical writing mode

Hello Nigel and TT,

That's right: we were asking because members of the TTML WG might have experience in this area and thus might offer guidance. This is not actually to do with TTML and not related to your WG's work. Sorry our request was not clear in that regard.

If you wish to respond to this, please comment on the CSS issue directly or you can reply on our public list (I have moved this thread in my reply), omitting public-tt@.

Addison

Addison Phillips
Sr. Principal SDE – I18N (Amazon)
Chair (W3C I18N WG)

Internationalization is not a feature.
It is an architecture.




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nigel Megitt [mailto:nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk]
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2019 7:33 AM
> To: Fuqiao Xue <xfq@w3.org>; public-tt@w3.org
> Cc: member-i18n-core@w3.org
> Subject: Re: audio elements in vertical writing mode
> 
> Hi Fuqiao,
> 
> Thanks for asking about this. Just a point of clarification for any TTWG
> members who, like me, were at first confused by this.
> 
> The audio element that is being referenced here is the HTML audio element,
> not the TTML2 audio element. As you can see from the examples, the HTML
> audio element creates a player area with controls. The TTML2 audio element
> simply represents an audio resource.
> 
> I don't wish to discourage any TTWG members from responding to this, but
> as Chair I think this question is out of scope of the TTWG's remit. None of the
> group's work to date has related to the appearance of media players and
> their layout and control.
> 
> Of course if you have expertise to answer the question, please go ahead!
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Nigel
> 
> 
> 
> On 13/12/2019, 15:01, "Fuqiao Xue" <xfq@w3.org> wrote:
> 
>     Hi all,
> 
>     I have been actioned [1][2] with contacting TTWG on behalf of the W3C
> I18N WG asking if anyone has experience dealing with media elements in
> vertical writing mode. The issue comes from a Chinese Layout Task Force
> meeting [3].
> 
>     Currently, the audio element takes up a lot of horizontal space when the
> content of a web page flows vertically, as you can see in these two demos
> (block and inline):
> 
>       * https://xfq.github.io/testing/i18n-personal-tests/audio-vertical-

> block.html
>       * https://xfq.github.io/testing/i18n-personal-tests/audio-vertical-

> inline.html
> 
>     And this behavior don't look right obviously. The issue itself is unrelated to
> media captioning, but we think that some of you may be experts who can
> comment on this because of your work on media. Any comment on what
> should audio elements look like in vertical writing mode? Should they be
> rotate 90 degrees? How should the volume/seeking/pause/resume controls
> be presented?
> 
>     Thanks,
>     Fuqiao Xue, Team Contact of W3C I18N WG
> 
>     [1] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/849

>     [2] https://www.w3.org/2019/12/12-i18n-minutes.html#item07

>     [3] https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/337

> 
> 
>

Received on Friday, 13 December 2019 16:06:16 UTC