Re: Future of WebVTT

When logging on to that page, I see myself listed there. I thought I
applied and was granted Invited Expert status back in September.
Was there anything else to do?

Thanks,
--Gary.


On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 3:34 PM Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
wrote:

> May I recommend inviting him as an expert? Would that resolve the issue?
> Thanks,
> Silvia.
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 9:27 PM Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Silvia,
> >
> > The TTWG participants are listed here:
> >
> > https://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=34314
> >
> > As you can see that Gary is not a TTWG participant
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Thierry
> >
> >
> > On 17/11/2018 21:08, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
> >
> > Hi Thierry,
> > I was under the impression that Gary was an invited expert in the TTWG
> and this able to take over. Could you please check?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Silvia.
> >
> >
> > On Sat., 17 Nov. 2018, 6:47 pm Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org wrote:
> >>
> >> David,
> >>
> >> If we let it lie there are poor chances it will stand up ;-)
> >>
> >> But if that is the plan let's go for it.
> >>
> >> Thierry.
> >>
> >> On 16/11/2018 20:02, David Singer wrote:
> >>
> >> what PLH and I agreed was that we’d let the situation lie until the
> re-charter. If Gary produces the materials, we can help steer it through
> (and maybe he’d join).
> >>
> >> On Nov 16, 2018, at 10:58 , Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> David,
> >>
> >> Without you and Sylvia, there is none left in the TTWG to work on
> WebVTT.
> >> Gary isn't a TTWG participant.
> >>
> >> With regards to this configuration, I don't see how we could achieve to
> exit CR.
> >>
> >> Probably  the best is to publish a Working Group Note as you had
> proposed earlier.
> >>
> >> Thierry
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 16/11/2018 18:17, David Singer wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Gary, the new editor, has an idea of how to show we have implementation
> and interop.  He’s aware of the need to do that before the re-charter
> happens. At TPAC I effectively stepped away; PLH asked me to stay as
> nominal co-chair until the re-charter but I can no longer give this even
> the minimal attention I was giving it.
> >>
> >> I’m wishing Gary the best of luck, asking my colleagues to help him as
> much as they can (and other implementers)…
> >>
> >> Silvia also can no longer give this the degree of attention she was
> giving it (she’s in a startup in a different field).
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 16, 2018, at 8:31 , Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org>
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> David,  Sylvia,
> >>
> >> WebVTT was published as a Candidate Recommendation on 10 May 2018.
> >>
> >>
> >> https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/CR-webvtt1-20180510/
> >>
> >> In order to exit CR, the TTWG needs to demonstrate implementation
> experience according the the WebVTT exit criteria.
> >>
> >> Recently David sent an email saying that "there is no-one who is
> willing to do the work to document VTT interoperability and the CR exit
> criteria, and that we might still have trouble proving implementability of
> every feature." He also added "we should not prolong the fiction that we’ll
> emerge from CR into Rec status, but instead do what the process requires,
> publish the CR as a WG note, and also keep the CG alive to keep the living
> standard."
> >>
> >>
> >> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2018Oct/0047.html
> >>
> >>
> >> Sylvia seems to say that there is a certain level of implementation of
> the WebVTT features and their interoperability based on the Web Platform
> Tests (WPT).
> >>
> >> Therefore we need to discus this and evaluate there is a path to move
> forward.
> >>
> >> The TTWG is considering rechartering its Charter by May 2019 for new
> deliverable.
> >>
> >> My management told me that if WebVTT could not exit CR by May 2019, it
> is unlikely it will make it into the next Charter.
> >>
> >> Therefore David and Sylvia, could you please join the next TTWG
> Thursday meeting,  to discuss this issue ?
> >>
> >> - How complete is the WebVTT test suite ?
> >> - What is the current level of WebVTT implementation?
> >> - Who will do the work to document WebVTT interoperability and the CR
> exit criteria
> >>
> >> Looking forward to talk to you during a next meeting,
> >>
> >> Thierry.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> David Singer
> >> Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
> >>
> >>
> >> David Singer
> >> Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
> >>
>