Re: {agenda} TTWG Meeting 2018-11-08

Hi Nigel et al.,

I suggest moving the following to the top of the agenda:

- timeline and process for revisions/editions/modules in 2019, e.g.
deadline for requirements
- plans for a F2F meeting in January

Best,

-- Pierre

On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 8:05 AM Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk> wrote:

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> *Activity since last meeting:*
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> *We are still using tracker for **actions* *unrelated** to issues.*
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> IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pulse
> TTML1: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pulse
> TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pulse
> TTML Profile Registry: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pulse
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> * ------------------------------ *
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> *Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead*
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> Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest, subject to reordering:
> 1. Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead
> 2. TTML1 Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
> 3. TTML2 Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
> 4. IMSC  Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
> 5. TTML Profile Registry Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
> 6. CSS Actions Review
> 7. WebVTT (David Singer to Chair if present)
> 8. Joint f2f meeting with EBU Timed Text, Jan 2019
> 9. AOB – please notify of any other AOB now!
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>
> Reminder re future milestones and meetings:
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> *November meetings:*
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> Thursday 15th November: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
> Thursday 22nd November: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
> Thursday 29th November: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
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> *IMSC 1.1 and TTML publication events:* see
> https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/specs-timeline.html
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> *Further ahead:*
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> Thursday 6th December: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
> Thursday 13th December: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
> Thursday 20th December: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
> Thursday 27th December: No meeting
> Thursday 3rd January: No meeting?
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> ------------------------------
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> *Agenda+ TTML1 Actions, Pull Requests and Issues*
>
> *Actions*
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> No actions due in tracker.
>
> Next steps: publish Rec version.
>
> *Recent Activity*
>
> No pull requests or issues opened or closed. One pull request open for
> longer than a week:
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> Proposed #372 TTML1 3ED Recommendation
> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pull/372>
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> Proposed timeline for publication:
> https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/specs-timeline.html
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>
> *N**ew (and old) Issues to Discuss*
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> No issues opened over the last week, no issues marked for the agenda.
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> (Plus unresolved issues with ongoing conversations, to be confirmed.)
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> *Links*
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> TTML1 issues and pull requests *labelled for the agenda*:
> https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/labels/agenda
> TTML1 issues *blocked*: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/labels/blocked
> Current open issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues
> Most recent TTML1 3rd Edition PR:
> https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/PR-ttml1-20181004/
> TTML1 Tests repo: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1-tests
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>
> * ------------------------------ *
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> *Agenda+ TTML2 **Actions, Pull Requests and Issues*
>
> *Actions*
>
> No actions recorded on tracker.
>
> Next steps: publish Rec version.
>
> *Recent Activity*
>
>  3 Pull requests merged by 1 person
> Merged #1016 Update publishing date; update/fix initial errata file.
> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/1016>
> Merged #1015 Update errata URL to use non-TR location.
> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/1015>
> Merged #1011 Update to REC status (#1010).
> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/1011>
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>  1 Issue closed by 1 person
> Closed #1010 Update to REC status.
> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/1010>
>
>
> Proposed timeline for publication:
> https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/specs-timeline.html
>
>
> *Pull Requests open for review (to discuss if requested):*
>
> No pull requests open for longer than a week.
>
>
> *New (and old) Issues and Pull Requests to discuss:*
>
>  3 Issues created by 1 person
> Opened #1014 Allow audio element as a child of body
> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/1014>
> Opened #1013 Add a syntactic shortcut for an implied audio element
> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/1013>
> Opened #1012 Does tts:display affect audio presentation?
> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/1012>
>
>
> (Plus unresolved issues with ongoing conversations, to be confirmed.)
> TTML2 issues and pull requests *labelled for the agenda*:
> https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/labels/agenda
>
> There are no issues currently labelled for the Agenda.
>
> *Links*
>
> Most recent PR published at https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/PR-ttml2-20181004/
> Current ED available at https://w3c.github.io/ttml2/
>
> Current open issues:  https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues
> See spreadsheet of editorial actions at
> https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx
> Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/ at
> https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> *Agenda+ IMSC* *Actions, Pull Requests and Issues*
>
> *Actions*
>
> None in tracker.
>
> Next step: Publish Rec version.
>
> *Recent Activity*
>
> No pull requests opened in the last two weeks.
>
> One pull request open for longer:
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> Proposed #466 IMSC 1.1 Recommendation
> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/466>
>
>  1 Pull request merged by 1 person
> Merged #468 Add automatic PR diff generation
> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/468>
>  1 Issue closed by 1 person
> Closed #467 Add automatic PR preview and diff
> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/467>
>
> Proposed timeline for publication:
> https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/specs-timeline.html
>
>
> *Pull Requests To Review (if discussion requested)*
>
> Pull request #466 review is complete; merge will happen on publication as
> a Rec, subject to any late editorial changes e.g. to pass specification
> rules.
>
> *New (and old) Issues to Discuss*
>
> No issues or pull requests currently labelled as agenda.
>
> *Links*
>
> IMSC issues and pull requests *labelled for the agenda*:
> https://github.com/w3c/imsc/labels/agenda :
> IMSC issues *blocked*: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/labels/blocked
>
> IMSC 1.1 PR published at
> https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/PR-ttml-imsc1.1-20181004/
>
> IMSC Implementation Page:
> https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_implementation_page.
> IMSC Tests repository: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-tests
>
> Unicode CLDR discussion
> Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915
> Pierre's response to the recent update is at
> http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915#comment:9
> Email response from Shervin at Unicode
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0018.html
>
> * ------------------------------ *
> *Agenda+ TTML Profile Registry *
>
>
> *Links*
>
> TTML Profile Registry editor's draft:
> https://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/
> TTML Profile Registry repository:
> https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry
>
> *Recent Activity*
>
> No pull requests opened or merged, or issues opened or closed, over the
> past 2 weeks.
>
>
> *Pull requests for review (to discuss if requested)*
>
> Pull requests open for longer than that:
>
> Proposed #47 Add reference to IMSC 1.0.1
> <https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/47>
> Proposed #48 Fix the media type in the abstract
> <https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/48>
> Proposed #50 Fix #42 and #43
> <https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/50>
> Proposed #54 Reorder tables alphabetically (#51).
> <https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/54>
>
>
> No issues created over the past week.
>
> No issues or pull requests currently marked for the agenda.
>
> *Links*
>
> TTML Profile Registry issues *labelled for the agenda*:
> https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/labels/agenda :
>
> * ------------------------------ *
>
> *Agenda+ CSS actions review*
>
> Response to Elika's email of 4th October at
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2018Oct/0011.html
>
> Do the updates to CSS Text address the requirements we put forward for
> presentation of subtitles and captions?
>
>
> For reference, we have the following CSS issues open:
>
> [css-sizing][css-align][css-text] Aligning an aligned block of text within
> its container  <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1975>TTML
> <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3ATTML>
> css-align-4
> <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-align-4>
>  css-sizing-4
> <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-sizing-4>
>  css-text-4
> <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-text-4>
> [css-inline] Allow background of an inline area to extend to before-and
> after-edges of the line area
> <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1974>TTML
> <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3ATTML>
>  css-inline-3
> <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-inline-3>
> [css-inline][css-text-4] Allow padding to be applied at line start and end
> <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1973>TTML
> <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3ATTML>
>  css-inline-3
> <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-inline-3>
> css-text-4
> <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-text-4>
> #2983 Support for shearing of lines and inline elements
> <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2983>
>
> Additionally the following CSS issues may be of interest:
>
> [css-fonts-4] oblique angle for synthesis in vertical text
> <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2869> css-fonts-4
> <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Acss-fonts-4>
> [css-inline] Define the content area of inline boxes
> <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/814>css-inline-3
> <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Acss-inline-3>
>
>
> Are CSS issues filed for all style attributes for which we believe CSS
> work is needed?
>
> See also https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2017Nov/0109.html
>
> *CSS WG review*
>
> Minutes from TTWG and CSS WG joint meeting at TPAC:
> https://www.w3.org/2017/11/09-tt-minutes.html#item35
> Minutes from CSS WG Paris F2F that Nigel attended remotely on Friday 4th
> August: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Sep/0000.html
> This is at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/CSSRequirements
>
> TAG design review issue:
> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/138
>
> CSS Review of TTML2, threads: FW: TTML2 horizontal review with CSS
> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0013.html> and Fwd:
> Subtitle/caption styling + TTML + CSS
> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0019.html>
>
> CSS 2.2 request for reviews from TTWG et al: Pre-announcement of CR for
> CSS 2.2 & request for reviews
> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0017.html> When
> can we schedule a review and gather feedback?
>
>
>
> * ------------------------------ *
> *Agenda+ WebVTT *
>
> *Actions*
>
> None in tracker
>
> *Links*
>
> WebVTT Wide review wiki page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review
>
> *Activity*
>
> No pull requests proposed or closed this period.
>
> 5 pull requests open for longer than a week:
>
> Proposed #439 Fix some links from the linkchecker and the broken process
> document link <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/439>
> Proposed #430 Fontsize changes <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/430>
> Proposed #434 Add a definition of "video viewport" and how it relates in
> HTML5 to object size resolution. <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/434>
> Proposed #438 Update CLA and License agreement
> <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/438>
> Proposed #419Timeranges <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/419>
>
> No other (meaningful) issues created this period.
>
> * ------------------------------ *
> *Agenda+ Joint f2f meeting with EBU Timed Text, Jan 2019*
>
> State of planning, topics for agenda.
>
> * ------------------------------ *
> *Agenda+ AOB*
>
> * ------------------------------ *
> *References*
>
> Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
>
>
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