- From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
- Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 18:05:24 +0000
- To: "public-tt@w3.org" <public-tt@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <D6C488DC.56BB6%nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
This meeting is scheduled for up to 60m plus extra time for a joint meeting with i18n immediately following. Please be ready for a prompt start at 10:03am Boston time.
Our teleconference is scheduled with reference to Boston Time, the correct time of this teleconference in your locale may change.
Check https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20180308T10&p1=43
Thursdays 10:03am-12:00pm Boston local
Joining details:
see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2016Oct/0009.html
(members-only link – if you can't see this and wish to join please contact me)
Plus for one week only, one hour in to the meeting, at 1100, we will join i18n's meeting to discuss the remaining IMSC issue: https://www.w3.org/2017/09/i18n-meeting-info.html for joining details.
Agenda+ Assign Roles
Chairs: Nigel Megitt
Scribe: usually Nigel – open to offers!
Regrets: None
Activity since last meeting:
See individual agenda items for recent activity on specific products
Cross-product TTWG board: http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/board/
We are still using tracker for actions unrelated to issues.
Please do not add or modify issues in tracker!
IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pulse
TTML1: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pulse
TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pulse
TTML Profile Registry: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pulse
TTML-WebVTT mapping: https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/pulse
WebVTT: https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pulse
Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead
Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest, subject to reordering:
1. TTML1 3rd Ed CR, Actions, Third Edition Pull Requests and Issues
2. TTML2 Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
3. IMSC Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
4. IMSC vNext requirements Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
5. CSS Actions Review
6. WebVTT (David Singer to Chair if present)
7. HDR in PNG (placeholder)
8. AOB – please notify of any other AOB now!
Reminder re future milestones and meetings:
March meetings:
Thursday 15th March: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Thursday 22nd March: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Thursday 29th March: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
IMSC 2 and TTML2 publication events: see the timeline of upcoming work at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/Publications#Timeline_of_TTML2_and_IMSC2_work
Further ahead:
Thursday 5th April: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s) NM unavailable
Thursday 12th April: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Thursday 19th April: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Thursday 26th April: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Agenda+ TTML1 Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
Actions – none in Tracker
Recent Activity
3 Pull requests merged by 2 people
Merged #346 Reorder features in profile documents<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pull/346>
Merged #344 Wrap overflow example lines (#341)<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pull/344>
Merged #345 Apply TTML1 2ED errata<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pull/345>
4 Issues closed by 2 people
Closed #203 The ordering of features in Appendix D differs from that in Appendix F.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/203>
Closed #341 Hard-wrap overflow example<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/341>
Closed #191 Formula for dropNTSC time expressions is incorrect.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/191>
Closed #226 Add errata items.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/226>
Pull Requests To Review (if discussion requested)
No new pull requests opened
New (and old) Issues and Pull Requests to Discuss
One older pull request open:
Proposed #343 TTML1 3ED CR<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pull/343>
(Plus unresolved issues with ongoing conversations, to be confirmed.)
No new issues opened.
No issues marked for the agenda
Links
TTML1 issues and pull requests labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/labels/agenda
TTML1 issues blocked: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/labels/blocked
Current open issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues
Agenda+ TTML2 Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
Actions
ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
ACTION-443<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443/edit> open Prepare a document showing mapping arib ruby extension features to ttml2 for use as a liaison document to arib.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443> Glenn Adams 2016-08-26 TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
ACTION-462<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462/edit> open Create issue on ttml2 to add "mapping from other versions and profiles of ttml"<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462> Glenn Adams 2016-04-28 TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
Recent Activity
1 Pull request merged by 1 person
Merged #682 Add missing feature designations (#680).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/682>
1 Issue closed by 1 person
Closed #680 Missing feature designations in Table E-1.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/680>
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Pull Requests open for review (to discuss if requested):
1 Pull request proposed by 1 person
Proposed #685 Fix pubrules errors and warnings (#684).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/685>
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6 pull requests open for longer (all except #681 labelled as CR2):
Proposed #681 Fix typos (#678).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/681>
Proposed #650 Specify font loading semantics (#368).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/650>
Proposed #651 Update requirements for claim of document (content) compliance (#495).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/651>
Proposed #652 Resolve confusion between default and implicit (#590).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/652>
Proposed #655 Refactor and refine non-terminal syntax for profile designators (#365, #366).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/655>
Proposed #665 Clarify that metadata has no presentation semantics (#656).<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/665>
New (and old) Issues and Pull Requests to discuss:
(Plus unresolved issues with ongoing conversations, to be confirmed.)
TTML2 issues and pull requests labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/labels/agenda
4 Issues created by 3 people
Opened #688 Clarify #rubyAlign-withBase and #rubyAlign<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/688>
Opened #687 Refine #profile-version-2 feature designator<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/687>
Opened #686 Add "raise a GitHub issue on the repo" as a feedback mechanism<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/686>
Opened #684 Fix publication rule related errors and warnings.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/684>
Issues marked as Agenda:
#683 Profile related features should be optional <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/683> agenda<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Aagenda> substantive<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Asubstantive>
Pull requests marked as Agenda:
None at this time
Links
Most recent WD published at https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/WD-ttml2-20170630/
Current ED available at https://w3c.github.io/ttml2/
Current open issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues
See spreadsheet of editorial actions at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx
Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/ at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md
Agenda+ IMSC Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
Actions
ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
ACTION-509<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/509>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/509/edit> open Propose liaison text for the imsc 1.1 fpwd<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/509> Pierre-Anthony Lemieux 2017-10-12 TTML IMSC 2.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/10>
Recent Activity
IMSC 1.0.1 Proposed Recommendation was published on Tuesday 27th February 2018: https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-imsc1.0.1/
2 Releases published by 1 person
Published imsc1.0.1-PR-20180220
Published imsc1.0.1-PR-20180227
No pull requests merged.
3 Issues closed by 1 person
Closed #329 consider removing recommendations that do not appear to address a technical problem<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/329>
Closed #327 Remove Editor's note in scope and update last bullet point<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/327>
Closed #311 Prohibit usesForced named metadata item<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/311>
Pull Requests To Review (if discussion requested)
5 Pull requests proposed by 2 people
Proposed #334 Fixed typo in color example<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/334> imsc1.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.1>
Proposed #335 Clarify relationship with SMPTE-TT<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/335> imsc1.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.1>
Proposed #336 Modify image profile example to use TTML <image><https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/336> imsc1.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.1>
Proposed #337 Specify only EBU-TT-D conformance to this spec<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/337> imsc1.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.1>
Proposed #339 Point reader to Media Accessibility User Requirements<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/339> horizontal-review<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Ahorizontal-review> imsc1.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.1>
2 pull requests open for longer:
Proposed #322 Port IMSC1.0.1 fixes<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/322> imsc1.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.1>
Proposed #326 Add explanatory text on profiles and processors<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/326> imsc1.1<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Aimsc1.1>
New (and old) Issues to Discuss
4 Issues created by 2 people
Opened #342 #fontKerning is erroneously permitted<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/342>
Opened #341 Update feature list per TTML2 CR<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/341>
Opened #340 Incorrect URL reference to EBU-TT-D 1.0<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/340>
Opened #338 Invite @r12a to a meeting to discuss #236<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/338>
1 issues labelled as agenda:
Should the character sets be minimum *font* requirements? <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/236> agenda<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aagenda> i18n-comment<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Ai18n-comment>
Join the internationalisation group to discuss this issue at 1600, joining details at https://www.w3.org/2017/09/i18n-meeting-info.html
Links
IMSC issues and pull requests labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/labels/agenda :
IMSC issues blocked: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/labels/blocked
IMSC 1.0.1
Editor's draft is directly viewable at http://w3c.github.io/imsc/imsc1/spec/ttml-ww-profiles.html
IMSC 1.0.1 PR published at https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/PR-ttml-imsc1.0.1-20180227/
IMSC 1 Rec available at https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/REC-ttml-imsc1-20160421/
Patent policy call for exclusions sent 2017-02-03, archived at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2017Feb/0006.html
IMSC Implementation Page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_implementation_page.
IMSC Tests repository: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-tests
IMSC 1.1 FPWD: https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/WD-ttml-imsc1.1-20171017/
Unicode CLDR discussion
Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915
Pierre's response to the recent update is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915#comment:9
Email response from Shervin at Unicode https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0018.html
Agenda+ IMSC vNext Requirements
Links
IMSCvNext Requirements editor's draft: https://w3c.github.io/imsc-vnext-reqs/
IMSCvNext Requirements repository: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs
Recent Activity
(none)
Pull requests for review (to discuss if requested)
3 Pull requests open for longer than a week:
Proposed #16 Constrain text emphasis position to 'outside'<https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/pull/16>
Proposed #17 Specify deprecation model<https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/pull/17>
Proposed #12 List features that are excluded from deprecation requirements<https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/pull/12>
PROPOSAL: Publish IMSC v1.1 Requirements as a WG Note
Links
IMSC Requirements issues labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/labels/agenda :
IMSC Requirements issues blocked: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-vnext-reqs/labels/blocked
Agenda+ CSS actions review
Are CSS issues filed for all style attributes for which we believe CSS work is needed?
See also https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2017Nov/0109.html
CSS WG review
Minutes from TTWG and CSS WG joint meeting at TPAC: https://www.w3.org/2017/11/09-tt-minutes.html#item35
Minutes from CSS WG Paris F2F that Nigel attended remotely on Friday 4th August: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Sep/0000.html
This is at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/CSSRequirements
TAG design review issue: https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/138
CSS Review of TTML2, threads: FW: TTML2 horizontal review with CSS<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0013.html> and Fwd: Subtitle/caption styling + TTML + CSS<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0019.html>
CSS 2.2 request for reviews from TTWG et al: Pre-announcement of CR for CSS 2.2 & request for reviews<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0017.html> When can we schedule a review and gather feedback?
Agenda+ WebVTT
ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
ACTION-396<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396/edit> open Produce evidence of request for wide review for webvtt, for the archive<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396> David Singer 2015-04-17 WebVTT 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>
ACTION-502<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/502>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/502/edit> open Explain to david that we need a more consistent disposition of comments for webvtt.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/502> Thierry Michel 2017-08-10 WebVTT 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>
Links
WebVTT Wide review wiki page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review
Activity
1 Pull request merged by 1 person
* Merged #410 Add a paragraph about the reasons why limiting styles.<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/410>
1 Issue closed by 1 person
* Closed #373 Wide Review Comment 2017: future styling options mechanism<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/issues/373>
1 Issue created by 1 person
* Opened #428 Typo in "4.2.2. WebVTT caption or subtitle cue text" section<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/issues/428>
2 Pull requests open
Agenda+ HDR in PNG [placeholder agenda item]
Links
We published this Note at https://www.w3.org/TR/png-hdr-pq/ (republished 25th July incorporating fix for typo)
Repo for PQ HDR in PNG: https://github.com/w3c/png-hdr-pq
Draft WG Note: https://w3c.github.io/png-hdr-pq/
Activity
None
Agenda+ AOB
References
Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
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