- From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 22:52:56 +0000
- To: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
- Cc: Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org>
Good news: I will be able to participate next week for the WebVTT review, since I'll be in San Francisco. I'll see if I can some agenda items so we can make good use of it for that second hour. Thierry, Nigel, David - might you also have some suggestions of agenda items for the WebVTT discussion? Thanks, Silvia. On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk> wrote: > Thanks all for attending today's TTWG meeting. Minutes can be found in HTML > format at https://www.w3.org/2017/09/21-tt-minutes.html > > In text format: > > [1]W3C > > [1] http://www.w3.org/ > > Timed Text Working Group Teleconference > > 21 Sep 2017 > > See also: [2]IRC log > > [2] http://www.w3.org/2017/09/21-tt-irc > > Attendees > > Present > Nigel, Cyril, Thierry, Andreas > > Regrets > Pierre > > Chair > Nigel > > Scribe > nigel > > Contents > > * [3]Topics > 1. [4]This meeting > 2. [5]TPAC Advanced planning > 3. [6]TTML2 Horizontal Review > 4. [7]TTML2 CSS equivalent properties > 5. [8]WebVTT review feedback > 6. [9]Meeting close > * [10]Summary of Action Items > * [11]Summary of Resolutions > __________________________________________________________ > > <scribe> scribe: nigel > > This meeting > > Nigel: Today, we can cover any additional thoughts re TPAC, > TTML2 HR (not sure how much > ... there is to discuss there), and I'm not sure what else. One > AOB from me: > ... To remind everyone to associate their GitHub accounts with > their W3C accounts so that > ... IPR can be tracked. > > [12]Tool for connecting W3C account to GitHub account > > [12] https://www.w3.org/users/myprofile/connectedaccounts > > Nigel: Please could everyone make sure they have done this. > ... Any other topics to cover today, or any other business? > > Thierry: I had another reminder about TPAC registration. > > TPAC Advanced planning > > Thierry: Please if you intend to come to TPAC register as soon > as possible; also it is difficult > ... to find hotels so if you are having difficulties let me > know. We are 6 weeks from TPAC, > ... so the registration price will go up in ~2 weeks. I will > send a reminder call email too. > > Andreas: Question re hotel location. I assume that some may not > stay in the hotel, and go > ... to it using public transportation or a car. Do you know if > there is an additional parking > ... fee at the hotel, and how much it is? > > Thierry: I don't know, but I'll check after the call and let > you know. > > Andreas: Thank you. > > Action-504? > > <trackbot> Action-504 -- Nigel Megitt to Send csswg an > invitation reminder by 2017-09-07 -- due 2017-09-07 -- > PENDINGREVIEW > > <trackbot> > [13]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/504 > > [13] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/504 > > Nigel: I've sent the reminder, and it's logged on the action in > tracker. > > close action-504 > > <trackbot> Closed action-504. > > Nigel: I still have had no responses from any CSS WG members > though! > ... Are there any suggestions for the agenda for us? > > group: no suggestions right now. > > Nigel: Logistics-wise, please let me know if you need remote > dial-in - I have to request > ... this in the next few weeks. > ... I have completed the AV WBS for TPAC for TTWG and currently > have not asked for a Polycom phone. > ... If necessary I can update my responses. > > TTML2 Horizontal Review > > action-506? > > <trackbot> action-506 -- Thierry Michel to Draft a wiki page > explaining our review and disposition steps and labels -- due > 2017-09-21 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [14]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/506 > > [14] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/506 > > Nigel: I think Thierry had the action from last week to link > the wiki page to the GitHub repo labels? > > Thierry: That's not how I understood my action - I thought the > action was to go through > ... the comments and assign an appropriate label. I thought we > had agreed on the labels > ... I proposed in the wiki. > > Nigel: I didn't think there were any proposals. > > Thierry: Yes, I did! > ... I have gone through all the comments and assigned a label. > I sent an email just before this > ... call. I have a few outstanding ones. If we agree with those > labels then I will add them on > ... GitHub. > > Nigel: Okay, thank you! > > Thierry: On the wiki page the proposed label is in the > brackets. > > [15]https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/TTML2_Wide_Review > > [15] https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/TTML2_Wide_Review > > Nigel: Oh that's what they are - I hadn't realised! > > Thierry: There are lots of comments that are still pending and > need further discussion. > ... We can maybe discuss them next week or the week after, when > the review period has closed. > > Nigel: Have you created the labels in the ttml2 repo? > > Thierry: No not yet. If we are satisfied with the labels then I > will add them into GitHub. > ... I think we should have a prefix for each label like WR for > Wide Review, which will ease filtering later. > > Nigel: Sounds reasonable to me. > > Thierry: At least we know then those labels are assigned for > the Wide Review. > > Nigel: So there's an action on everyone to look at the email > you sent and check that the > ... proposed labels are correct? > > Thierry: Yes, and I will finalise the remaining incomplete ones > maybe today. > > Cyril: Do you have an example of a GitHub issue to which you > added a label? > > Thierry: No, sorry, I was not clear enough. I have only done > added the labels on the email, > ... but not added the labels on the GitHub Issues yet. I will > do that when we have agreed on > ... the labels. > > Cyril: OK, got it, thank you! I hadn't seen the email. > ... On the wiki, there are several that are "resolved" but on > the email the first one is "resolved". > ... Which one is it? > ... I think that we should have different labels for 1.3 and > 1.4 because they both include "resolved". > ... For example call 1.4 "Spec Updated". > ... And disambiguate 1.5 and 1.6. > ... Each issue can have both a processing by group label and a > commenter status label? > > Thierry: Yes. Good idea to fix the labels, I will do that. > > Cyril: I'm editing the wiki page just so they are clear. > > Thierry: Thank you. > > Cyril: Does "spec update" mean an update has been made or one > is required? > > Thierry: It means "updated already". > > Cyril: I'll change it to "updated" then. > ... And you want the commenter labels to be prefixed WR too? > > Thierry: Yes, thank you Cyril. > > Cyril: I will update the wiki page. > > Thierry: Then I will update the email and send it. > > Nigel: Thank you - I will take the lead on checking the email's > proposed labels. > > Cyril: I've made the changes. > > Thierry: "Partial" approval is WG approval of part of the > commenter's proposal. That needs to be clear. > > Nigel: Ah thank you that wasn't clear to me. > ... Thanks, that's great. Is action-506 done? > > Thierry: Leave it open until next week when we can finalise > everything. > > Nigel: Ok will do. > > TTML2 CSS equivalent properties > > github: [16]https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/406 > > [16] https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/406 > > Nigel: Since last week I have completed the set of sub-issues > with proposed mappings that > ... are CSS-based alternatives to the current XSL-FO semantics. > I'd still really appreciate a > ... review of all of those if anyone is able to check them > before I complete the work to put > ... them in a pull request. Obviously the pull request is > another opportunity for review, but > ... it's quicker to make fixes earlier. > ... For example with text-decoration, I found that XSL 1.1 > makes an addition to the CSS > ... semantic that I cannot see anywhere in CSS: it sets the > position of underline based on > ... the language. > > Cyril: A quick question on this issue in general - it is not > going to change the TTML2 > ... publication timeline? > > Nigel: I don't see why it should. > > Cyril: It's an annex only? > > Nigel: Yes, and also it is informative. > > Cyril: I was wondering how we proceed with the CSS changes and > CSS WG without adding > ... delay to the TTML2 publication timeline? > > Nigel: I think it's in our domain to approve the equivalent > semantic mapping for XSL semantics > ... that are in CSS, so we are in control of the timeline > there. > ... For new semantics that we're requesting in CSS but that are > not available now, I think we > ... can probably go ahead without them in TTML2 and at a later > stage issue an update > ... incorporating new CSS semantics when they are > referenceable. > ... At least that would be my first proposal. > > Cyril: I'm happy with that. > > Thierry: Fine with me. > > Andreas: Me too. > > WebVTT review feedback > > Thierry: The WebVTT wide review ends tomorrow, on the 22nd, and > I've invited David to > ... join our next telecon - he replied that he may have an AB > meeting and he will let us know. > ... I see also that Andreas has sent some wide review comments > today - 8 comments. > > Andreas: Yes, I wasn't exactly sure about the process because > in the WR process email you > ... said comments should be sent to the reflector. In my case > it was easiest to open the issues > ... on GitHub and then send an email listing them. Is that ok? > > Thierry: No problem, yes, that fits. > > Meeting close > > Nigel: We've hit the end of our agenda, so unless there are any > other points we will adjourn. > > Thierry: Is next week's meeting 2 hours? > > Nigel: It's marked as 2 hours - maybe a good idea if we are to > discuss WebVTT also. > > Thierry: I will remind David, and also ask if it would help to > make the WebVTT a timed > ... agenda item. > ... I think Sylvia also should participate, so I'll copy her > also. > > Nigel: This time might be horrible for her if she's in > Australia, so another alternative would be > ... to set up a specific meeting at a better time for everyone > who wants to participate. > > Thierry: Yes, I'll propose that too. > > Nigel: I'm happy either way, for it to be part of this meeting > slot or at a different time. > ... Thanks everyone! 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