- From: Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com>
- Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 10:32:15 -0700
- To: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
- Cc: Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org>
Hi Nigel et al., Below are specific issues I suggest we cover in the front of the agenda, as WG action is required to make progress. - https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/268 [ed.: my take is that the requested feature is not required for TTML2.] - https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/263 [ed.: it looks like this can be closed, unless @r12a comments otherwise.] - https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/253 [ed.: it looks it can be closed.] - https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/141 [ed.: need to decide (a) whether <image> meets requirements and (b) whether to keep Annex M and, if so, (c) who will do the work to update it] - https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/128 [ed.: I think this should be deferred unless someone takes it on and finds an alternative to breaking xml:id semantics] > 1. TPAC advanced planning I recommend this be done electronically, i.e outside of the telecon, given the limited time we have. Best, -- Pierre On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk> wrote: > This meeting is scheduled for up to 120m. Please be ready for a prompt start > at 10:03am Boston time. > > Our teleconference is scheduled with reference to Boston Time, the correct > time of this teleconference in your locale may change. > > Check > https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20170511T10&p1=43 > > Thursdays 10:03am-12:00pm Boston local > > Joining details: > > see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2016Oct/0009.html > (members-only link – if you can't see this and wish to join please contact > me) > > Agenda+ Assign Roles > > Chairs: Nigel Megitt > > Scribe: usually Nigel – open to offers! > > Regrets: Andreas, Thierry > > Activity since last meeting: > See individual agenda items for recent activity on specific products > > Cross-product TTWG board: http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/board/ > > We are still using tracker for actions unrelated to issues. > Please do not add or modify issues in tracker! > > > IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pulse > TTML1: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pulse > TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pulse > TTML Profile Registry: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pulse > TTML-WebVTT mapping: https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/pulse > > WebVTT: https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pulse > > Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead > > Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest, subject to reordering: > 1. TPAC advanced planning > 2. TTML issue assignment and progress tracking > 3. TTML1 & TTML2 issues, actions, PRs, editorial actions etc > 4. IMSC > 5. HDR in PNG > 6. Progress on HTMLCue proposal (placeholder) > 7. WebVTT comments (placeholder) > 8. AOB – please notify of any other AOB now! > > > > Reminder re future milestones and meetings: > > May Meetings: > > Thursday 18th Mary: TTWG phone meeting 2 Hour(s) > Thursday 25th Mary: TTWG phone meeting 2 Hour(s) > > Further ahead: > > Thursday 1st June: TTWG phone meeting ? Hour(s) > Thursday 8th June: TTWG phone meeting ? Hour(s) > Thursday 15th June: TTWG phone meeting ? Hour(s) > Thursday 22th June: TTWG phone meeting ? Hour(s) > Thursday 29th June: TTWG phone meeting ? Hour(s) > > IMSC 2 and TTML2 publication events: see the timeline of upcoming work at > https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/Publications#Timeline_of_TTML2_and_IMSC2_work > > > Agenda+ TPAC 2017 Advanced planning > > As Chair I have completed the WBS survey, requesting: > > Attendance for ~10 people. > No preference for date, meet on any two days. > Flexible about days. > Joint meeting with CSS WG and with Web and TV IG. > Avoid overlap with Web and TV IG. > Permit observers. > Not member confidential. > Estimate ~6 attending technical plenary. > Estimate ~3 attending AC sessions Tuesday and Thursday. > > https://www.w3.org/2017/11/TPAC/Overview.html > > Agenda+ TTML issue assignment and progress tracking (20 minutes maximum) > > We have a tough goal to resolve our open issues by the end of May. Please > could you indicate for the coming week which issues you will be able to pick > up and prepare pull request(s) for? > > Additional sub-topic raised last week: process for assignment of issues to > milestones. > > Agenda+ TTML1 & TTML2 issues, actions, PRs, editorial actions etc > > Horizontal Review: > > CSS Review of TTML2, threads: FW: TTML2 horizontal review with CSS and Fwd: > Subtitle/caption styling + TTML + CSS > > Internationalisation review by r12a has generated several new issues on > TTML2 and comments on existing issues (see below), this week mainly about > alignment with relatively recent CSS developments. > > CSS 2.2 request for reviews from TTWG et al: Pre-announcement of CR for CSS > 2.2 & request for reviews When can we schedule a review and gather feedback? > > Actions: > ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with > ACTION-443 open Prepare a document showing mapping arib ruby extension > features to ttml2 for use as a liaison document to arib. Glenn Adams > 2016-08-26 TTML2 > ACTION-462 open Create issue on ttml2 to add "mapping from other versions > and profiles of ttml" Glenn Adams 2016-04-28 TTML2 > > Most recent WD published at https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/WD-ttml2-20170106/ > > Merged TTML1 Pull Requests: > > Clarify application of padding (#221) > > Merged TTML2 Pull Requests: > > Issue 0203 add examples of ja features part 2 > > Issue 0296 inline block > > Add note re: bopomofo > > Updated tts:writingMode example (issue #269) > > Open TTML1 Pull Requests: None > > Open TTML2 Pull Requests: > > Modified tts:direction example (#262) > > Adds xml:lang to metadata examples (issue #271) > > New TTML1 Issues: None > New TTML2 Issues: > > Typos in rubyOverflow example > > Closed TTML1 Issues: > > Do tts:origin and tts:extent apply to the padded rectangle or the content > rectangle? > > Closed TTML2 Issues: > > Add examples of new features commonly used with Japanese content (2 of 2) > > Replace automatic inline block generation with explicit > tts:display='inlineBlock'. > > Does tts:backgroundImage affect size of content area? > > Regarding initial value of tts:lineHeight > > tts:writingMode example is not helpful > > Discussed TTML1 Issues: None > Discussed TTML2 Issues: > > Adds xml:lang to metadata examples (issue #271) > It should be easier to specify direction for RTL script users > The uniqueness of xml:id needs to be broken for some uses of condition > Styling using tts:direction: there should be an `auto` value > Use a more typical example for tts:direction > Should we allow more overhang for Chinese? > Support for bopomofo ruby needed > No mention of isolation for directional controls > Embedded graphics don't fully meet requirement > Add support for Audio Description requirements > Reference versioning > > > Focus topic(s) for this week > > Open Pull Requests (50 minutes) > > Can we reach consensus to merge the open pull requests or understand what > changes are needed so that they can be merged? > > Issues (remaining time) > > Follow-up on previous discussion re Whitespace handling – can we agree what > we want? See also Clarify whitespace handling when xml:space="default" and > Ambiguity regarding tab (U+0009) processing in significant whitespace. > > Inclusion of foreign namespace elements – is it only permitted on metadata > elements, or anywhere? Do we need additional conformance language? See also > IMSC issue foreign namespace usage is underspecified > > Consider applying ipd or bpd to content images – can we agree what we want > to happen here? > > Are we able to agree the desired outcome for Interpreting the pixel measure > ? > > A PR was merged early (direct commit) for How to specify aspect ratio to > understand positioning that may apply for display or video - does this do > what we need? Last comment on the issue was Jan 6. > > Given the recent discussions, are we in a position to propose a syntax and > semantic to resolve Should background of a span be height of text in line or > computed lineHeight? in a way that can reasonably be contributed to CSS WG > for their proposed equivalent? > > AD Requirements > > Given the discussion on Add support for Audio Description requirements do we > need to review the AD requirements document formally? > > See also: AD Requirements wiki page. > > > > Current open issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues and > https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues > See spreadsheet of editorial actions at > https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx > Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/ at > https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md > > > Agenda+ IMSC (now incorporates Unicode ticket) > > What are our next steps? We will need to Create tests for CR exit criteria > > IMSC 1.0.1 WD for Wide Review published at > https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-imsc1.0.1/ > IMSC 1 Rec available at https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/REC-ttml-imsc1-20160421/ > Patent policy call for exclusions sent 2017-02-03, archived at > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2017Feb/0006.html > > Editor's draft is directly viewable at > http://w3c.github.io/imsc/imsc1/spec/ttml-ww-profiles.html > IMSC Implementation Page: > https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_implementation_page. > > Unicode CLDR discussion > Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915 > Pierre's response to the recent update is at > http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915#comment:9 > Email response from Shervin at Unicode > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0018.html > > Merged pull requests: none > > Open pull requests: None > > New or discussed issues: > > Determination of the color in leading in tts:fillLineGap > ittp:activeArea clarification > > Closed issues: > > Draft the privacy and security review questionnaire answers > > > > Agenda+ HDR in PNG > > ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with > ACTION-495 open Update the ttwg homepage and publications pages for the new > repos Thierry Michel 2017-04-20 > > Repo for PQ HDR in PNG: https://github.com/w3c/png-hdr-pq > Draft WG Note: https://w3c.github.io/png-hdr-pq/ > > Merged pull requests: none > > Open pull requests: None > > New or discussed issues: None > > Closed issues: None > > > Agenda+ HTMLCue proposal progress update. > > ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with > ACTION-441 open Kick off the analysis work on the vttcue carrying html idea. > Andreas Tai 2015-11-05 > > See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Apr/0012.html for > further information on this, this week. > > Also HTML import and HTMLCue? email from 2016-09-06. > > [placeholder agenda item] > > Agenda+ WebVTT review feedback > > ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with > ACTION-396 open Produce evidence of request for wide review for webvtt, for > the archive David Singer 2015-04-17 WebVTT 1.0 > > Discussion on WebVTT review feedback and next steps. > > WebVTT Wide review wiki page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review > > Open Pull requests: > > Add requirements for region identifier to exist. > Ruby issue264 > > Merged Pull requests: None > > New issues: None > Closed issues: None > > Recently discussed issues: > > "Attempt to consume an HTML character reference,…" > incomplete ruby implementation [I18N-ISSUE-431] > > > Agenda+ AOB > > References > > Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText >
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