Re: {agenda} TTWG Meeting 2017-03-09

Hi Nigel,

> I appreciate the request, and I could construct such an agenda, however experience suggests it would be a fiction since the amount
> of discussion needed for each topic is unknown in advance.

Ok. Can the TTML2 issues be listed in the order they are intended to
be discussed? This would allow participants to prepare for those
issues that are likely to be discussed. There is very little time left
before the end of March.

Thanks,

-- Pierre

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi Pierre,
>
> I appreciate the request, and I could construct such an agenda, however
> experience suggests it would be a fiction since the amount of discussion
> needed for each topic is unknown in advance. I suggest that we begin with
> IMSC 1 and allocate 30 minutes total to the well-discussed open pull request
> and a decision to publish a WD for WR, then move on to TTML2 for the
> remainder of the meeting.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Nigel
>
>
> From: Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com>
> Date: Tuesday, 7 March 2017 at 09:49
> To: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
> Cc: "public-tt@w3.org" <public-tt@w3.org>
> Subject: Re: {agenda} TTWG Meeting 2017-03-09
>
> Hi Nigel,
>
> I am afraid I will be available only for the first 75 minutes.
>
> Can a precise agenda (e.g. per issue number) be crafted?
>
> Best,
>
> -- Pierre
>
> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> This meeting is scheduled for up to 60m. Please be ready for a prompt
>> start at 10:03am Boston time.
>>
>> As agreed last week, during March we will begin at the "old" time of 10am
>> Boston
>>
>> Our teleconference is scheduled with reference to Boston Time, the correct
>> time of this teleconference in your locale may change.
>>
>> Check
>> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20170309T10&p1=43
>>
>> Thursdays 10:03am-12:00pm Boston local
>>
>> Joining details:
>>
>> see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2016Oct/0009.html
>> (members-only link – if you can't see this and wish to join please contact
>> me)
>>
>> Agenda+ Assign Roles
>>
>> Chairs: Nigel Megitt
>>
>> Scribe: usually Nigel – open to offers!
>>
>> Regrets: none
>>
>> Activity since last meeting:
>> See individual agenda items for recent activity on specific products
>>
>> Cross-product TTWG board: http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/board/
>>
>> We are still using tracker for actions unrelated to issues.
>> Please do not add or modify issues in tracker!
>>
>>
>> IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pulse
>> TTML1: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pulse
>> TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pulse
>> TTML Profile Registry: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pulse
>> TTML-WebVTT mapping: https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/pulse
>>
>> WebVTT: https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pulse
>>
>> Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead
>>
>> Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest, subject to reordering:
>> 1. IMSC (now incorporates Unicode ticket)
>> 2. TTML issues, actions, PRs etc
>> 3. Progress on HTMLCue proposal (placeholder)
>> 4. WebVTT comments (placeholder)
>> 5. AOB – please notify of any other AOB now!
>>
>>
>>
>> Reminder re future milestones and meetings:
>>
>> March Meetings:
>>
>> Thursday 16th March: TTWG phone meeting 2 hours
>> Thursday 23rd March: TTWG phone meeting 2 hours
>> Thursday 30th March: TTWG phone meeting 2 hours
>>
>> Further ahead:
>>
>> Thursday 6th April: TTWG phone meeting ? Hours (Nigel away)
>> Thursday 13th April: TTWG phone meeting ? Hours
>> Thursday 20th April: TTWG phone meeting ? Hours
>> Thursday 27th April: TTWG phone meeting ? Hours
>>
>> IMSC 2 and TTML2 publication events: see the timeline of upcoming work at
>> https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/Publications#Timeline_of_TTML2_and_IMSC2_work
>>
>>
>> Agenda+ IMSC (now incorporates Unicode ticket)
>>
>> Main agenda point is to try to conclude on the foreign namespace usage is
>> underspecified issue (i.e. Merge the pull request) and move to a WD for Wide
>> Review + Horizontal Review.
>>
>> IMSC 1.0.1 FPWD published at https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-imsc1.0.1/
>> IMSC 1 Rec available at
>> https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/REC-ttml-imsc1-20160421/
>> Patent policy call for exclusions sent 2017-02-03, archived at
>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2017Feb/0006.html
>>
>> Editor's draft is directly viewable at
>> http://w3c.github.io/imsc/imsc1/spec/ttml-ww-profiles.html
>> IMSC Implementation Page:
>> https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_implementation_page.
>>
>> Unicode CLDR discussion
>> Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915
>> Pierre's response to the recent update is at
>> http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915#comment:9
>> Email response from Shervin at Unicode
>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0018.html
>>
>> Merged pull requests: none
>>
>> Open pull requests: Editorial clarification of foreign namespace
>> provisions
>>
>> New or discussed issues: foreign namespace usage is underspecified
>>
>> Closed issues: none
>>
>>
>>
>> Agenda+ TTML1 & TTML2 issues, actions, PRs, editorial actions etc
>>
>> Horizontal Review:
>>
>> CSS Review of TTML2, threads: FW: TTML2 horizontal review with CSS and
>> Fwd: Subtitle/caption styling + TTML + CSS
>>
>> Internationalisation review by Addison Phillips and r12a has generated
>> several new issues on TTML2 and comments on existing issues (see below)
>>
>> CSS 2.2 request for reviews from TTWG et al: Pre-announcement of CR for
>> CSS 2.2 & request for reviews When can we schedule a review and gather
>> feedback?
>>
>> Actions:
>> ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
>> ACTION-443 open Prepare a document showing mapping arib ruby extension
>> features to ttml2 for use as a liaison document to arib. Glenn Adams
>> 2016-08-26 TTML2
>> ACTION-462 open Create issue on ttml2 to add "mapping from other versions
>> and profiles of ttml" Glenn Adams 2016-04-28 TTML2
>>
>> Most recent WD published at https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/WD-ttml2-20170106/
>>
>> Merged Pull Requests:
>>
>> Improve language regarding pruning during ISD construction (#210, #212).
>>
>> Open TTML1 Pull Requests:
>>
>> Clarify application of padding (#221)
>>
>> Open TTML2 Pull Requests:
>>
>> Issue 0203 add examples of ja features part 2
>>
>> New TTML1 Issues: none
>> New TTML2 Issues:
>>
>> Show better mappings between base and annotation in figures
>> Add an illustration of pinyin for ruby align
>>
>> Closed TTML1 Issues: none
>> Closed TTML2 Issues:
>>
>> Please provide more illustrations and examples for the ruby sections
>>
>> Discussed TTML1 Issues: none
>> Discussed TTML2 Issues:
>>
>> Add support for Audio Description requirements
>>
>> Use of 'em' units in tts:fontSize on region element is not well defined.
>>
>> <emphasis-position> vs CSS text-emphasis-position + Mongolian
>>
>> rubyAlign withBase
>>
>> Support for bopomofo ruby needed
>>
>> Add support for compositing a TTML2 document onto HDR video
>>
>> Add examples of new features commonly used with Japanese content (2 of 2)
>>
>> Ambiguous definition of "empty" in Synchronic Document Construction
>>
>> Mismatch between CSS and TTML2 text align styling on <span>
>>
>> Default ruby position may be on the wrong side for tblr (eg. Mongolian)
>>
>> tts:writingMode example is not helpful
>>
>>
>> Focus topic(s) for this week
>>
>> Use of 'em' units in tts:fontSize on region element is not well defined.
>> since this has been closed and reopened and we need to get to consensus so
>> that we can close it and move on.
>>
>> Issue-239 3D and images
>> Can we resolve this on the call?
>>
>> Inclusion of foreign namespace elements – is it only permitted on metadata
>> elements, or anywhere? Do we need additional conformance language? See also
>> IMSC issue foreign namespace usage is underspecified
>>
>> TTML1 Clarification of padding pull request Clarify application of padding
>> (#221)
>>
>>
>> Current open issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues and
>> https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues
>> See spreadsheet of editorial actions at
>> https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx
>> Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/ at
>> https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md
>>
>>
>> Agenda+ HTMLCue proposal progress update.
>>
>> ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
>> ACTION-441 open Kick off the analysis work on the vttcue carrying html
>> idea. Andreas Tai 2015-11-05
>>
>> See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Apr/0012.html for
>> further information on this, this week.
>>
>> Also HTML import and HTMLCue? email from 2016-09-06.
>>
>> [placeholder agenda item]
>>
>> Agenda+ WebVTT review feedback
>>
>> ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
>> ACTION-396 open Produce evidence of request for wide review for webvtt,
>> for the archive David Singer 2015-04-17 WebVTT 1.0
>>
>> Discussion on WebVTT review feedback and next steps.
>>
>> WebVTT Wide review wiki page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review
>>
>> Open Pull requests:
>>
>> Drop line: and position: settings with invalid linealign/colalign
>> Use HTML's rules for parsing floating-point number values
>> Add Security and Privay section
>>
>> Merged Pull requests: none
>> New issues:
>>
>> "Interpret linepos as a (potentially signed) rea…"
>>
>> Parsing: should drop line:100,invalid setting
>>
>> Closed issues: none
>>
>> Recently discussed issues:
>>
>> CR bug: region identifiers
>>
>>
>> Agenda+ AOB
>>
>> Nigel: report from CSUN
>>
>> References
>>
>> Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
>>
>>
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