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{agenda} TTWG Meeting 2016-09-15

From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 16:20:27 +0000
To: Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org>
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Agenda+ Assign Roles

Chairs: Nigel Megitt

Scribe: usually Nigel – open to offers!

Regrets: Glenn, Pierre

Activity since last meeting:
Actions: ACTION-475<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/475>

IMSC:
Merged PRs:
Closed Issues: none.
New and Discussed Issues: none.
Open PRs: none.

TTML1 & 2 :
Merged PRs: Disallow duplicate absolutized designators in ttp:{content,processor}…<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/167>; Issue 0171 br in timecontainer list<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/172>;
Open PRs: Add tts:background{Clip,Extent,Origin}.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/177>; Add support for rounded borders by introducing <border-radii> compose…<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/179>; Add missing two component expression to <position> value syntax.<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/180>.
New and discussed issues: Allow LWSP in some style value expressions?<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/178>;
Add support for rounded borders<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/176>; Add background related styles<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/175>; The uniqueness of xml:id needs to be broken for some uses of condition<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/128>; The ittm:altText attribute should be in TT namespace in TTML 2.0<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/107>; (also see
https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/wiki/Time and https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/wiki/Nigel's-TTML-and-SMIL-walkthrough where time issues and not-officially-issues have been collated)

Timed Text Profile Registry:
Merged PRs: none.
Open PRs: none.
New and discussed issues: none. PLH has agreed to take care of the media registration update with IANA.


TTML/WebVTT mapping:
Merged PRs: none;
Open PRs: none;
New and discussed issues: none.

WebVTT:
0 PR merged; 2 PRs open; 0 issues created, 0 issue closed: discussion via github

Cross-product TTWG board: http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/board/
We are still using tracker for actions unrelated to issues.
Please do not add or modify issues in tracker!

IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pulse
TTML1: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pulse
TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pulse
TTML Profile Registry: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pulse
TTML-WebVTT mapping: https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/pulse
WebVTT: https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pulse

Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead

Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest, subject to reordering:
1. TPAC 2016
2. TTML2 issues, actions, PRs etc
3. Profile registry
4. IMSC
5. TTML and WebVTT mapping document
6. Progress on HTMLCue proposal
7. Unicode liaison
8. WebVTT comments
9. AOB – please notify of any other AOB now!


Reminder re future milestones and meetings:

September Meetings:
Monday 19th September: TTWG face to face meeting at TPAC
Tuesday 20th September: TTWG face to face meeting at TPAC
Thursday 29th September: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour

Further ahead:

IMSC 2 and TTML2 publication events: see the timeline of upcoming work at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/Publications#Timeline_of_TTML2_and_IMSC2_work

October Meetings:
Thursday 6th October: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
Thursday 13th October: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
Thursday 20th October: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
Thursday 27th October: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour

1st November: draft TTML2 Candidate Recommendation

Agenda+ TPAC 2016

ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-475<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/475>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/475/edit>     open    Contact the chair of the web & tv ig to ask about schedule and joint meeting time.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/475>        Nigel Megitt    2016-07-28

Draft TTWG schedule: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/tpac2016#TTWG_TPAC_2016
Draft TPAC schedule: https://www.w3.org/2016/09/TPAC/schedule.html

Agenda+ TTML1 & TTML2 issues, actions, PRs, editorial actions etc

ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-443<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443/edit>     open    Prepare a document showing mapping arib ruby extension features to ttml2 for use as a liaison document to arib.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443>   Glenn Adams     2016-08-26      TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
ACTION-462<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462/edit>     open    Create issue on ttml2 to add "mapping from other versions and profiles of ttml"<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462>   Glenn Adams     2016-04-28      TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>

Current open issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues and https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues

Collated time related issues for TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/wiki/Time

See spreadsheet of editorial actions at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx

Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/ at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md

More volunteers welcomed!

TTML Change Proposals – progress and review

Change Proposal Index is at http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex

The current priority 2 CPs (needs to be complete before WD for Wide Review) are:

5       OPEN    2       Jerry Smith     TTML2   HTML5 Mapping semantics<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal005>
7       OPEN    2       Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  TTML2   3D extensions<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal007>
9       OPEN    2       Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  IMSC2   Complexity model<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal009>
11      OPEN    2       Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  TTML2   Metadata vocab<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal011>
15      OPEN    2       Glenn Adams     TTML2   Style.CSS additions<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal015>
17      OPEN    2       Glenn Adams     TTML2   Style.Defaults<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal017>
19      OPEN    2       Glenn Adams     TTML2   Style.Syntax fixes<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal019>
21      OPEN    2       Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  TTML2   Typography.I18n<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal021>
25      OPEN    2       Nigel Megitt    TTML2   Distribution<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal025>


Agenda+ Profiles registry.

Working Group Note published at https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-profile-registry/

https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry
http://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/

https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ProfileRegistry

Agenda+ IMSC

Editor's draft is directly viewable at https://rawgit.com/w3c/imsc1/master/spec/ttml-ww-profiles.html
IMSC Implementation Page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_implementation_page.

Agenda+ TTML and WebVTT Mapping Document

Editor's Draft is at http://w3c.github.io/ttml-webvtt-mapping/

Agenda+ HTMLCue proposal progress update.

ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-441<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441/edit>     open    Kick off the analysis work on the vttcue carrying html idea.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441>      Andreas Tai     2015-11-05


See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Apr/0012.html for further information on this, this week.

Also HTML import and HTMLCue?<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Sep/0003.html> email from 2016-09-06.

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Agenda+ Unicode liaison.

Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915

Note that this was updated after IMSC 1 Recommendation publication as per Action-457.

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Agenda+ WebVTT review feedback


ACTION-473<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473/edit>     open    Contact co-chairs and essential parties on how to move forward on vtt; need an action plan<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473>        Thierry Michel  2016-06-30



ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-396<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396/edit>     open    Produce evidence of request for wide review for webvtt, for the archive<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>   David Singer    2015-04-17      WebVTT 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>

Discussion on WebVTT review feedback and next steps.

Agenda+ AOB

References

Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
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