{agenda} TTWG Meeting 2015-10-22

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Agenda+ Assign Roles

Chair: Nigel Megitt

Scribe: [to assign during meeting]

Regrets:

Activity since last meeting (which was less recent than usual!):
Actions: Action-421, Action-434, Action-435, Action-437, Action-438, Action-439;
Issues discussed: Issue-341, Issue-368, Issue-410, Issue-411, Issue-418, Issue-453;
Issues raised: none;
Discussions regarding profiles and MIME types for MP4 files;
Discussion regarding anonymous regions;
XSD for IMSC extensions;
Outgoing liaison to ATSC;
TTML implementation added to wiki.

Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead

Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest:
1. Action Items
2. TPAC 2015
3. IMSC 1 Test Suite and Implementation Report
4. TTML and WebVTT mapping document
5. Progress on HTMLCue proposal
6. Unicode liaison
7. Profile registry
8. Issues
9. WebVTT comments
10. TTML2 Editorial actions
11. TTML Versions note
12. Change proposals
13. AOB – please notify of any other AOB now!


Reminder re future milestones and meetings:

October Meetings:
Thursday 29th October: TPAC face to face meeting all day
Friday 30th October: TPAC face to face meeting all day

Further ahead:

IMSC and TTML2 publication events: see the timeline of upcoming work at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/Publications#Timeline_of_IMSC1.2C_TTML2_and_IMSC2_work


November Meetings:
Thursday 5th November: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
Thursday 12th November: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
Thursday 19th November: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
Thursday 26th November: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour

Agenda+ Action items

Action items due – see relevant sections below.
ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-433<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/433>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/433/edit>     open    Update cvs hosted landing page to simplify and highlight link into wiki page<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/433>      Thierry Michel  2015-10-22
ACTION-436<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/436>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/436/edit>     open    Send mdolan an empty respec based note as a starting point for action-429<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/436> Thierry Michel  2015-10-22

Action items pending review – see also relevant sections below.
ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-421<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/421>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/421/edit>     pending review  Check with ttml player manufacturers if they're happy to be listed on our site.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/421>   Nigel Megitt    2015-09-24
ACTION-434<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/434>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/434/edit>     pending review  Draft outgoing liaison to atsc proposing to reference an updated wd of ttml2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/434>      Mike Dolan      2015-10-22

Action items overdue
ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-364<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/364>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/364/edit>     open    Add paragraph in intro that summarizes changes from ttml1 (comment from tm)<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/364>       Glenn Adams     2015-04-17      TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
ACTION-383<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/383>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/383/edit>     open    Missing XML declaration<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/383>   Glenn Adams     2015-04-30      TTML 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/1>
ACTION-384<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/384>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/384/edit>     open    Ensure consistency in ttml2 w.r.t. inline progression dimension vs direction<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/384>      Glenn Adams     2015-04-16      TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
ACTION-386<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/386>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/386/edit>     open    Investigate whether region style inheritance from tt is necessary given the ability to redefine initial values<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/386>    Glenn Adams     2015-04-17      TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
ACTION-404<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/404>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/404/edit>     open    Add note to issue 341 to reflect his current thinking<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/404>     Glenn Adams     2015-06-11      ISSUE-341<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/341>
NB Various other actions are in their relevant sections below.

Agenda+ TPAC 2015

Placeholder agenda item in preparation for TPAC 2015 in Sapporo.

Advanced registration is now open for TPAC. See http://www.w3.org/2015/10/TPAC/ for further details.
The schedule is at http://www.w3.org/2015/10/TPAC/schedule


Our wiki page is at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/tpac2015


Please make any date or time specific requests ASAP to facilitate scheduling.

ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-435<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/435>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/435/edit>     pending review  Add tools to tpac agenda<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/435>  Nigel Megitt    2015-10-22

Agenda+ IMSC CR2, Test Suite and Implementation Report

IMSC test suite and Implementation Report https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_Implementation_Report.


Actions
ACTION-425<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/425>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/425/edit>     open    Send a prompt/thank you to the potential test result contributors for imsc.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/425>       Thierry Michel  2015-10-01


ACTION-432<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/432>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/432/edit>     open    Nigel, pal, andreas and frans to hook up re changing imsc 1 ebu-tt feature references to point to tech3350 v1.1<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/432>   Nigel Megitt    2015-10-15      ISSUE-410<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/410>

Issues Pending Review
ID      State   Title   Raised on       Product Open Actions
ISSUE-418<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/418>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/418/edit>        PENDING REVIEW  semantics of ttp:aspectRatio is ambiguous<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/418>  2015-09-21      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-453<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/453>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/453/edit>
forcedDisplay intro text        PENDING REVIEW  Clarify relation between forcedDisplay and visibility in intro statement<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/453>   2015-10-16      TTML IMSC 1.0   0

Issues discussed
ISSUE-410<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/410>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/410/edit>        OPEN    Constraints on #linePadding and #multiRowAlign<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/410>     2015-09-03      TTML IMSC 1.0   1
ISSUE-411<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/411>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/411/edit>        OPEN    "shall be inherited" on #multiRowAlign<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/411>     2015-09-03      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-450<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/450>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/450/edit>        OPEN    IMSC1 Does Not Require Any Feature/Extension be supported by a Processor<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/450>   2015-10-09      TTML IMSC 1.0   0

Agenda+ TTML and WebVTT Mapping Document

https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml-webvtt-mapping/mappingbetweenTTMLandWebVTTW3C.html


ISSUE-435<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/435>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/435/edit>
Generic font-family names in TVTT       OPEN    Forbidden font family names<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/435>        2015-09-23      TTML WebVTT mapping note        1
ISSUE-436<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/436>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/436/edit>        OPEN    Move Overview to Annex<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/436>     2015-09-23      TTML WebVTT mapping note        0
ISSUE-437<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/437>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/437/edit>
#time-clock in tvtt     OPEN    #time-clock is forbidden<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/437>   2015-09-23      TTML WebVTT mapping note        1
ISSUE-438<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/438>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/438/edit>
#length-cell in TVTT    OPEN    Forbidden #length-cell<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/438>     2015-09-23      TTML WebVTT mapping note        0

ISSUE-446<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/446>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/446/edit>        OPEN    Should be a subset of IMSC1<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/446>        2015-09-23      TTML WebVTT mapping note


Agenda+ HTMLCue proposal progress update.

[placeholder agenda item]

Agenda+ Unicode liaison.

Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915


[placeholder agenda item]

Agenda+ Profiles registry.

https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ProfileRegistry


Thread beginning at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2015Aug/0036.html


ACTION-429<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/429>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/429/edit>     open    Draft a wg note for the profile short name registry and ttml media type registration<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/429>      Mike Dolan      2015-10-08



Agenda+ Issues

Issues Raised - None

Issues Pending Review – see IMSC above

Issues Discussed – see also IMSC above
ID      State   Title   Raised on       Product Open Actions
ISSUE-224<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/224>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/224/edit>
3D text placement       OPEN    Support text placement in 3D coordinate spaces (not zIndex compositing).<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/224>   2013-05-30      TTML2   0
ISSUE-341<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/341>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/341/edit>        OPEN    ambiguous definition for determination of descendant region identifier<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/341>     2014-08-27      TTML 1.0        1
ISSUE-368<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/368>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/368/edit>
ISD construction prunes <br/> erroneously       OPEN    The [Construct Intermediate Document] process erroneously prunes empty <br> elements<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/368>       2015-01-29      TTML 1.0        0

There are 82 open issues listed in the system.

Agenda+ WebVTT review feedback

ACTION-396<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396/edit>     open    Produce evidence of request for wide review for webvtt, for the archive<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>   David Singer    2015-04-17      WebVTT 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>

Placeholder for discussion on WebVTT review feedback.

Agenda+ Note on TTML versions

Draft at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/5ee90ec0d897/ttml-status/index.html

Reminder to all to review this and provide feedback to Cyril.

Agenda+ TTML2 editorial actions

See spreadsheet of actions at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml2/spec/ednotes.xlsx


Edit/build instructions now in README.txt in ttml2/spec/ at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/file/tip/ttml2/spec/README.txt


More volunteers welcomed!

Agenda+ Change Proposals – progress and review

Change Proposal Index is at http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex


The current priority 2 CPs (needs to be complete before WD for Wide Review) are:

5       OPEN    2       Jerry Smith     TTML2   HTML5 Mapping semantics<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal005>
7       OPEN    2       Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  TTML2   3D extensions<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal007>
9       OPEN    2       Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  IMSC2   Complexity model<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal009>
11      OPEN    2       Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  TTML2   Metadata vocab<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal011>
15      OPEN    2       Glenn Adams     TTML2   Style.CSS additions<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal015>
17      OPEN    2       Glenn Adams     TTML2   Style.Defaults<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal017>
19      OPEN    2       Glenn Adams     TTML2   Style.Syntax fixes<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal019>
21      OPEN    2       Pierre-Anthony Lemieux  TTML2   Typography.I18n<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal021>
25      OPEN    2       Nigel Megitt    TTML2   Distribution<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal025>

Agenda+ AOB

Incoming Liaison from ATSC at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2015Oct/0000.html



References

Tracker <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/trackerTTML> <http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker%C2%A0> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/><http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker%C2%A0>/<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/>
Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText






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