- From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
- Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:42:49 +0000
- To: Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <D048AB16.11EE7%nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
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Agenda+ Assign Roles
Chair: Nigel Megitt
Scribe: [to assign during meeting]
Regrets:
Activity since last meeting:
Actions: Action-329, Action-330, Action-331;
Issues discussed: Issue-270 and Issue-335, Issue-228, Issue-325, Issue-327, Issue-332, Issue-335, Issue-342, Issue-344, Issue-345, Issue-346, Issue-347, Issue-348,
Issues raised: none other than those also listed above;
IMSC 1 actions to progress to CR.
Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead
Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest:
1. Santa Clara F2F October (TPAC)
2. IMSC 1 actions to progress to CR.
3. Action Items
4. TTML 2 FPWD
5. Issues - pending review first, then open and discussed, then, since IMSC 1 is our next CR, any other open issues on IMSC 1
6. Planning for next change proposals to work on
7. AOB – please notify now!
Reminder re future milestones and meetings:
This week: TTML2 FPWD
September 25th (today): TTWG phone meeting: 2 Hours
Further ahead:
October 2nd: TTWG phone meeting: 1 hour
Wednesday 8 October: closure date for issues on TTML2 - any new feature issues beyond this point to be addressed after LC or in v.next.
October 9th: TTWG phone meeting: 1 hour
October 15th: IMSC 1 version suitable for CR submission
October 16th: TTWG phone meeting: 1 hour
October 23rd: TTWG phone meeting: 1 hour
October 27th & 28th: TTWG F2F meeting at TPAC
Thursday 20th November: all issues on TTML2 to be closed or deliberately postponed (to v.next or LC review stage).
Wednesday 17th December: TTML2 CR ready to request for publication e.g. for publication on Thursday 18th December.
Agenda+ Santa Clara F2F October (TPAC)
Wiki page is at [1]. Currently empty. (Needs an agenda, attendees etc.)
Main topics will be TTML2 and WebVTT? IMSC 1 will be in CR at this point.
Agenda+ Progression of IMSC 1 to CR
Actions as per Thierry's email at [2].
Choose date for planned publication: we said "ready by Oct 15", but that's a Wednesday and publication must happen on a Tuesday or a Thursday; we can choose publication on Oct 14 or Oct 16.
Agenda+ Action items pending review
ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
ACTION-234<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/234>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/234/edit> pending review Explore box-decoration-break in response to issue-286<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/234> Glenn Adams 2014-08-31
ACTION-298<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/298>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/298/edit> pending review Either proscribe or define semantics on specifying both @extends and @restricts on a ttp:{feature,ext3ension}<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/298> Glenn Adams 2014-08-31
ACTION-329<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/329>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/329/edit> pending review Revisit issue-339 to investigate potential resolution options<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/329> Frans de Jong 2014-09-24 allow #overflow<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/339>
ACTION-330<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/330>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/330/edit> pending review Consider contributing authors section of ttml2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/330> Nigel Megitt 2014-09-24 TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
Agenda+ Action items overdue
ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
ACTION-236<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/236>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/236/edit> open Review consistent use of "root temporal extent" in both ttml 2 and ttml 1 se<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/236> Glenn Adams 2014-08-31
ACTION-283<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/283>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/283/edit> open And dsinger to respond to mpeg liaison<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/283> Nigel Megitt 2014-09-10 Profile short names<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305>
ACTION-286<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/286>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/286/edit> open Send an email to public-tt describing the ttv hosting site at w3c<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/286> Glenn Adams 2014-08-31
ACTION-287<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/287>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/287/edit> open Elaborate on wording in §4 on namespace extension in ttml2 and as an errata to ttml1<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/287> Glenn Adams 2014-08-31
ACTION-320<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/320>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/320/edit> open Review https://www.w3.org/wiki/ttml/codecsregistry w.r.t. recent ttml2 changes in profile definition mechanisms<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/320> Glenn Adams 2014-08-21
ACTION-326<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/326>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/326/edit> open Review resolution to issue-340 and add review comments to issue<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/326> Frans de Jong 2014-09-18
ACTION-327<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/327>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/327/edit> open Review resolution to issue-343 and add review comments to issue<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/327> Frans de Jong 2014-09-18
Agenda+ Action items due next week
ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
ACTION-328<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/328>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/328/edit> open Revisit issue-339 to investigate potential resolution options<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/328> Pierre-Anthony Lemieux 2014-09-24
ACTION-331<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/331>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/331/edit> open Contact cyril requesting git repository instructions for the tests.<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/331> Nigel Megitt 2014-09-24
Agenda+ Issues raised over the past week
Pending Review issues
ID State Title Raised on Product Open Actions
ISSUE-207<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/207>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/207/edit>
initial value of color property PENDING REVIEW Consider adding a way to specify a specific, initial value for tts:color.<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/207> 2013-05-15 TTML2 0
ISSUE-228<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/228>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/228/edit>
Ruby text PENDING REVIEW Ruby text support<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/228> 2013-05-30 TTML2 0
ISSUE-277<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/277>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/277/edit>
region-style-inheritance PENDING REVIEW Adding style inheritance for regions.<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/277> 2013-09-05 TTML2 0
ISSUE-281<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/281>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/281/edit>
non-inherited style initialization PENDING REVIEW Non-inherited style initialization needs specification prose.<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/281> 2013-10-08 TTML2 0
ISSUE-305<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305/edit>
Profile short names PENDING REVIEW Registry of TTML profiles and short names<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305> 2014-05-01 1
ISSUE-321<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/321>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/321/edit> PENDING REVIEW typo - s/ttp:feature/ttp:extension/ in 5th paragraph of 6.1.5<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/321> 2014-05-24 TTML 1.0 (Editorial) 0
ISSUE-325<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/325>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/325/edit> PENDING REVIEW Add 'prohibited' value to @ttp:validation<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/325> 2014-07-17 TTML2 0
ISSUE-327<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/327>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/327/edit>
IMSC should meet W3C QA Framework Spec guidelines PENDING REVIEW IMSC should meet W3C QA Framework Spec guidelines<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/327> 2014-07-21 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-332<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/332>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/332/edit>
#cellResolution support PENDING REVIEW #cellResolution support<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/332> 2014-08-07 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-335<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/335>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/335/edit>
Negative times for offsets PENDING REVIEW In order to handle offsets between start time in TTML docs and start time in video, allow negative times to be used in fragment begin times.<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/335> 2014-08-14 TTML2 0
ISSUE-340<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/340>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/340/edit>
profile designator clarification PENDING REVIEW Make clear that the use of the ttp:profile attribute is not required.<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/340> 2014-08-27 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-342<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/342>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/342/edit>
add 2 ebutts elements PENDING REVIEW Add ebutts:multiRowAlign and ebutts:linePadding attributes to the IMSC Text Profile<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/342> 2014-09-03 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-343<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/343>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/343/edit>
non-IMSC/TTML elements PENDING REVIEW Processing of non-IMSC/TTML namespace elements<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/343> 2014-09-03 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-344<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/344>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/344/edit>
Note for unqualified attributes PENDING REVIEW Add a clarification note expressing intent behind unqualified attribute names<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/344> 2014-09-09 TTML2 0
ISSUE-345<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/345>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/345/edit> PENDING REVIEW tts:overflow - ambiguous language about region extent<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/345> 2014-09-17 TTML 1.0 (Editorial) 0
ISSUE-346<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/346>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/346/edit> PENDING REVIEW Need ttp:mediaDuration parameter<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/346> 2014-09-21 TTML2 0
ISSUE-347<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/347>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/347/edit>
ISD Syntax PENDING REVIEW Define ISD Syntax for both UA internal use and interchange.<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/347> 2014-09-23 TTML2 0
Raised and discussed, or just discussed
ID State Title Raised on Product Open Actions
ISSUE-270<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/270>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/270/edit>
nigel OPEN Appendix N assumption that root temporal extent corresponds with the beginning of a related media object<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/270> 2013-08-12 TTML2 0
ISSUE-339<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/339>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/339/edit>
allow #overflow OPEN Allow the use of #overflow<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/339> 2014-08-27 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-348<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/348>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/348/edit> OPEN Make metric optional in offset-time form of time expressions.<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/348> 2014-09-23 TTML2 0
The following issues are currently Open on IMSC 1 – no further non-editorial issues will be opened until the next transition point:
ID State Title Raised on Product Open Actions
ISSUE-307<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/307>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/307/edit>
Profile and conformance terminology OPEN Conformance language and processor profile rather than content profile.<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/307> 2014-05-02 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-315<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/315>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/315/edit>
Maximum number of regions should be a processor constraint OPEN Maximum number of regions should be a processor constraint<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/315> 2014-05-21 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-319<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/319>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/319/edit>
HRM should be a processor compliance test OPEN HRM should be a processor compliance test and allow different levels of complexity for different use cases<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/319> 2014-05-23 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
Agenda+ Change Proposals – progress and review
Change Proposal Index is at [2].
Our current priority 1 CPs are:
1 OPEN 1 Jerry Smith TTML2 Amendments to the set attribute<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal001>
5 OPEN 1 Jerry Smith TTML2 HTML5 Mapping semantics<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal005>
12 OPEN 1 Glenn Adams TTML2 Profile fixes<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal012>
15 OPEN 1 Glenn Adams TTML2 Style.CSS additions<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal015>
16 OPEN 1 Glenn Adams TTML2 Style.Conditional<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal016>
17 OPEN 1 Glenn Adams TTML2 Style.Defaults<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal017>
19 OPEN 1 Glenn Adams TTML2 Style.Syntax fixes<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal019>
24 OPEN 1 Glenn Adams TTML2 XML fixes<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal024>
25 OPEN 1 Nigel Megitt TTML2 Distribution<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal025>
Does any of the work discussed in this meeting result in a change of status to any CPs, e.g. To CLOSED-IMPLEMENTED?
Timeline for TTML2 updated in 14th August meeting.
W/C 22 September: TTML2 FPWD
Wednesday 8 October: closure date for issues on TTML2 - any new feature issues beyond this point to be addressed after LC or in v.next.
Monday 27th and Tuesday 28th October: TPAC F2F
Thursday 20th November: all issues on TTML2 to be closed or deliberately postponed (to v.next or LC review stage).
Wednesday 17th December: Last Call doc ready to request for publication.
Agenda+ AOB
References
[1] Santa Clara F2F October (TPAC) wiki page http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/tpac2014
[2] Thierry's email re taking IMSC 1 to CR: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2014Sep/0090.html
[3] Change Proposals at http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex
Tracker http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/trackerTTML
Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
Received on Wednesday, 24 September 2014 16:43:22 UTC