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{agenda} TTWG Meeting 19/6/2014

From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 19:01:58 +0000
To: TTWG <public-tt@w3.org>
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Agenda+ Assign Roles

Chair: Nigel Megitt

Scribe: [to assign during meeting]

Regrets:

Activity since last meeting: IMSC Feature Designators (Issue-307 etc), SMPTE Liaison, Issue-309 discussion, Issue-312 edits

Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting

Check-point for order of topics  I'd suggest:
1. MIME codecs parameter if we're quorate on this topic
2. Actions,
3. Issues - pending review first, then open and discussed, then raised
4. Planning for next change proposals to work on
5. AOB

Agenda+ MPEG liaison re MIME Codecs parameter

This is scheduled for a major discussion for this topic since all main contributors will hopefully attend.

ISSUE-305<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305/edit>
Profile short names     PENDING REVIEW  Register of TTML profiles and short names<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305>  2014-05-01              1       Timed Text Working Group<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/>

ISSUE-280<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/280>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/280/edit>
nested-profiles CLOSED  Add ability to define a profile from multiple profiles.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/280>    2013-09-06      TTML2   0

ACTION-284<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/284>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/284/edit>     closed  Create the registry page<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/284>  Glenn Adams     2014-05-01


ACTION-290<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/290>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/290/edit>       open    Describe the history for how we got to the signalling needed for mpeg that came from dece for issue-305.<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/290>   Mike Dolan      2014-05-29



Liaison in mail archive at [1] and text reproduced in ACTION-282. Response at [2].

Agenda+ Action items pending review

(none at time of writing the agenda)

Agenda+ Action items overdue and due next week

ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-207<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/207>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/207/edit>       open    Add round-down clarification to "closest" language, see issue-259<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/207>  Glenn Adams     2014-04-01
ACTION-234<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/234>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/234/edit>       open    Explore box-decoration-break in response to issue-286<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/234>      Glenn Adams     2014-04-01
ACTION-236<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/236>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/236/edit>       open    Review consistent use of "root temporal extent" in both ttml 2 and ttml 1 se<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/236>       Glenn Adams     2014-04-01
ACTION-258<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/258>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/258/edit>       open    Work with pal to resolve edits needed for issue-259 comments<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/258>       Glenn Adams     2014-04-01
ACTION-285<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/285>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/285/edit>       open    Implement proposed errata in issue-304<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/285>     Glenn Adams     2014-05-01      Non-Standard Unqualified Attributes<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/304>
ACTION-286<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/286>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/286/edit>       open    Send an email to public-tt describing the ttv hosting site at w3c<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/286>  Glenn Adams     2014-05-01
ACTION-287<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/287>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/287/edit>       open    Elaborate on wording in 4 on namespace extension in ttml2 and as an errata to ttml1<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/287>       Glenn Adams     2014-05-08

ACTION-294<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/294>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/294/edit>       open    Create a sign-up wbs survey for geneva.<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/294>    Nigel Megitt    2014-06-05
ACTION-295<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/295>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/295/edit>       open    Socialise the geneva f2f meeting amongst the webvtt community<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/295>      David Singer    2014-06-05
ACTION-296<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/296>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/296/edit>       open    Define default for @validationaction to be warn if @validation is optional; otherwise, default is abort<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/296>    Glenn Adams     2014-06-12
ACTION-297<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/297>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/297/edit>       open    Soften language about 'willful violation' regarding treatment of duration zero<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/297>     Glenn Adams     2014-06-12
ACTION-298<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/298>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/298/edit>       open    Either proscribe or define semantics on specifying both @extends and @restricts on a ttp:{feature,ext3ension}<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/298>      Glenn Adams     2014-06-12

ID      State   Title   Person  Due Date        Associated with
ACTION-300<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/300>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/300/edit>       open    Add note to issue 263 explaining how ttml2 additions for @{extends,restricts} (partially) addresses this issue<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/300>     Glenn Adams     2014-06-19


Agenda+ Issues pending review, discussed and raised over the past week

ID      State   Title   Raised on       Product Open Actions
ISSUE-263<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/263>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/263/edit>  PENDING REVIEW  profile feature set may not match intended feature constraints<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/263>      2013-07-17      TTML Simple Delivery Profile for Closed Captions (US)   0
ISSUE-295<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/295>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/295/edit>
Constrained code pages  PENDING REVIEW  Remove code point restrictions from IMSC<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/295>    2013-11-07      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-296<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/296>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/296/edit>
xml:lang constraints in IMSC    PENDING REVIEW  Remove xml:lang placement restrictions from IMSC<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/296>    2013-11-07      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-305<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305/edit>
Profile short names     PENDING REVIEW  Register of TTML profiles and short names<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305>   2014-05-01              0
ISSUE-308<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/308>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/308/edit>
Related video object reference missing  PENDING REVIEW  It is unclear how a document is associated with a related video object<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/308>      2014-05-02      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-309<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/309>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/309/edit>
Image profile fails WCAG 1.2    PENDING REVIEW  Image profile needs to permit text equivalent<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/309>       2014-05-21      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-312<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/312>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/312/edit>
forcedDisplay should be in ttm  PENDING REVIEW  forcedDisplay attribute is metadata so should be in ttm not tts namespace<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/312>   2014-05-21      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-313<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/313>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/313/edit>
Presented Region is informative only    PENDING REVIEW  Presented Region section is informative only<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/313>        2014-05-21      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-316<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/316>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/316/edit>
Wording of 5.2  PENDING REVIEW  Wording of 5.2 doesn't make sense<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/316>   2014-05-21      TTML IMSC 1.0   0

ID      State   Title   Raised on       Product Open Actions
ISSUE-307<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/307>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/307/edit>
Profile and conformance terminology     OPEN    Conformance language and processor profile rather than content profile.<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/307>     2014-05-02      TTML IMSC 1.0   0

ID      State   Title   Raised on       Product Open Actions
ISSUE-306<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/306>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/306/edit>
Fractional time expressions in N.2 media timeBase       RAISED  Appendix N.2 omits fractional time expressions<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/306>      2014-05-02      TTML 1.0        0
ISSUE-314<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/314>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/314/edit>
Temporally active is not defined for regions    RAISED  Temporally active is not defined for regions<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/314>        2014-05-21      TTML 1.0        0
ISSUE-315<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/315>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/315/edit>
Maximum number of regions should be a processor constraint      RAISED  Maximum number of regions should be a processor constraint<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/315>  2014-05-21      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-317<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/317>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/317/edit>
IMSC should not require frame alignment RAISED  IMSC should not require frame alignment<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/317>     2014-05-22      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-319<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/319>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/319/edit>
HRM should be a processor compliance test       RAISED  HRM should be a processor compliance test and allow different levels of complexity for different use cases<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/319>  2014-05-23      TTML IMSC 1.0   0
ISSUE-321<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/321>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/321/edit>  RAISED  typo - s/ttp:feature/ttp:extension/ in 5th paragraph of 6.1.5<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/321>       2014-05-24      TTML 1.0 (Editorial)    0



Agenda+ Change Proposals  progress and review

Change Proposal 2 [5] has been edited in line with last week's discussion - awaiting a further edit in TTML2 prior to closure.

Change Proposal Index is at [4].
Which Change Proposals would owners like to progress next? There are 20 open CPs.

Timeline updated in 13th Mar meeting:
January-March: Clean up and complete CPs
April-July: Draft, iterate and edit solutions to CP issues
August: Last Call

Agenda+ AOB

Regrets from Nigel for 26/6 and 3/7

References

[1] MPEG Liaison re Codecs parameter http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2014Apr/0005.html
[2] W3C response to MPEG Liaison re Codecs parameter http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2014Apr/0025.html
[3] TPAC survey results https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34314/TPAC2014Planning/results
[4] Change Proposals at http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex
[5] Change Proposal 2 https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal002
Tracker http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/trackerTTML
Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
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