- From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
- Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 16:34:41 +0000
- To: Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CFF58383.20717%nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
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Agenda+ Assign Roles
Chair: Nigel Megitt
Scribe: [to assign during meeting]
Regrets: Pierre-Anthony Lemieux, Glenn Adams (in several cases their dispositions re particular issues have been sent to the reflector so we will proceed where we can)
Activity since last meeting: IMSC timeline; Change proposal prioritisation; discussion of issues: Issue-259, Issue-309, Issue-313, Issue-314, Issue-317; Issues raised: Issue-325, Issue-326, Issue-327 and Issue-328.
Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting
Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest:
1. IMSC 1 timeline and future meeting durations
3. Actions,
4. Issues - pending review first, then open and discussed, then raised (where dispositions present or provided in advance)
5. Planning for next change proposals to work on
6. AOB
Agenda+ IMSC 1 timeline and future meeting durations
Proposal timeline at [1] to expedite publication:
* All issues with the editor's draft to be raised by 5th September;
* Any new issues arising purely from the consideration of TTML <--> WebVTT mapping at our Geneva F2F, to be submitted ASAP after that meeting;
* Version suitable for review prior to submission as Last Call by October 15, with all issues either resolved or deferred (until the LC review process or v.future).
Plus liaison to key organisations informing them of this timeline.
In order to process the outstanding issues I also propose that we modify the duration of upcoming meetings until end of August as follows:
July 31: 2 hours
August 7: 1 hour
August 14: 2 hours
August 21: 1 hour
August 28: NM regrets – anyone want to chair for this meeting?
Agenda+ Action items pending review
The following actions relate to issue-259. From comments on the email reflector it appears that all who have been involved so far are happy to close, so in the absence of other comments I will aim to close these actions and the issue.
ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
ACTION-207<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/207>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/207/edit> pending review Add round-down clarification to "closest" language, see issue-259<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/207> Glenn Adams 2014-04-01
ACTION-258<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/258>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/258/edit> pending review Work with pal to resolve edits needed for issue-259 comments<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/258> Glenn Adams 2014-04-01
ISSUE-259<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/259>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/259/edit>
Closest PENDING REVIEW Define "closest"<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/259> 2013-06-27 TTML2 0
ACTION-306<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/306>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/306/edit> pending review Assign priorities to change proposals owned by jdsmith<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/306> Jerry Smith 2014-07-24
Agenda+ Action items overdue and due next week
ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
ACTION-234<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/234>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/234/edit> open Explore box-decoration-break in response to issue-286<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/234> Glenn Adams 2014-04-01
ACTION-236<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/236>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/236/edit> open Review consistent use of "root temporal extent" in both ttml 2 and ttml 1 se<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/236> Glenn Adams 2014-04-01
ACTION-285<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/285>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/285/edit> open Implement proposed errata in issue-304<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/285> Glenn Adams 2014-05-01 Non-Standard Unqualified Attributes<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/304>
ACTION-286<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/286>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/286/edit> open Send an email to public-tt describing the ttv hosting site at w3c<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/286> Glenn Adams 2014-05-01
ACTION-287<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/287>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/287/edit> open Elaborate on wording in §4 on namespace extension in ttml2 and as an errata to ttml1<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/287> Glenn Adams 2014-05-08
ACTION-290<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/290>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/290/edit> open Describe the history for how we got to the signalling needed for mpeg that came from dece for issue-305.<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/290> Mike Dolan 2014-05-29
ACTION-295<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/295>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/295/edit> open Socialise the geneva f2f meeting amongst the webvtt community<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/295> David Singer 2014-06-05
ACTION-298<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/298>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/298/edit> open Either proscribe or define semantics on specifying both @extends and @restricts on a ttp:{feature,ext3ension}<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/298> Glenn Adams 2014-06-12
ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
ACTION-304<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/304>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/304/edit> open Assign priorities to change proposals owned by glenn<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/304> Glenn Adams 2014-07-24
ACTION-305<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/305>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/305/edit> open Assign priorities to change proposals owned by pal<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/305> Pierre-Anthony Lemieux 2014-07-24
ACTION-307<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/307>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/307/edit> open Assign priorities to change proposals owned by mdolan<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/307> Mike Dolan 2014-07-24
Agenda+ Issues pending review, discussed and raised over the past week
We do not have advanced notice of disposition from those involved for the following Pending Review issues, and have regrets from key people involved, so this list is for reference only:
ID State Title Raised on Product Open Actions
ISSUE-263<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/263>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/263/edit> PENDING REVIEW profile feature set may not match intended feature constraints<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/263> 2013-07-17 TTML Simple Delivery Profile for Closed Captions (US) 0
ISSUE-305<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305/edit>
Profile short names PENDING REVIEW Registry of TTML profiles and short names<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305> 2014-05-01 0
ISSUE-323<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/323>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/323/edit>
Content Processor behaviour is normative PENDING REVIEW Content Processor behaviour is normative<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/323> 2014-07-09 TTML2 0
The following issues are 'raised' and in the absence of contrary debate will be moved to Open in this meeting:
ID State Title Raised on Product Open Actions
ISSUE-324<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/324>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/324/edit>
Prefer end to dur on generated out-of-line regions RAISED Prefer end to dur on generated out-of-line regions<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/324> 2014-07-09 TTML2 0
ISSUE-325<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/325>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/325/edit> RAISED Add 'prohibited' value to @ttp:validation<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/325> 2014-07-17 TTML2 0
ISSUE-326<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/326>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/326/edit> RAISED definitions do not use shall, uses of definitions may use shall<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/326> 2014-07-17 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-327<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/327>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/327/edit>
IMSC should meet W3C QA Framework Spec guidelines RAISED IMSC should meet W3C QA Framework Spec guidelines<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/327> 2014-07-21 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-328<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/328>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/328/edit>
John Birch RAISED ittm:altText should be in TT namespace in TTML 2.0<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/328> 2014-07-23 TTML2 0
The following issues were discussed recently, and dispositions have been provided on the reflector from those involved in the discussion so far, who have sent their regrets:
ISSUE-309<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/309>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/309/edit>
Image profile fails WCAG 1.2 OPEN Image profile needs to permit text equivalent<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/309> 2014-05-21 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-313<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/313>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/313/edit>
Presented Region is informative only OPEN Presented Region section is informative only<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/313> 2014-05-21 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-314<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/314>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/314/edit>
Temporally active is not defined for regions OPEN Temporally active is not defined for regions<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/314> 2014-05-21 TTML 1.0 0
ISSUE-317<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/317>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/317/edit>
IMSC should not require frame alignment OPEN IMSC should not require frame alignment<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/317> 2014-05-22 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
Agenda+ Change Proposals – progress and review
Change Proposal 2 [3] has been edited in line with last week's discussion – do edits to TTML2 now allow closure (allowing for some resolution to issue-324)?
Change Proposal Index is at [2].
Which Change Proposals would owners like to progress next? There are 20 open CPs.
Timeline updated in 13th Mar meeting:
January-March: Clean up and complete CPs
April-July: Draft, iterate and edit solutions to CP issues
August: Last Call
Agenda+ AOB
References
[1] IMSC 1 timeline email http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2014Jul/0027.html
[2] Change Proposals at http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex
[3] Change Proposal 2 https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal002
Tracker http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/trackerTTML
Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
Received on Wednesday, 23 July 2014 16:35:12 UTC