- From: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>
- Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 12:49:23 -0600
- To: John Birch <John.Birch@screensystems.tv>
- Cc: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>, TTWG <public-tt@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CACQ=j+c_ukkgZ=fJEuArjEU7EYVmR+XaFwgAAB_ahWocvY5F8w@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 2:19 AM, John Birch <John.Birch@screensystems.tv> wrote: > Hi Nigel, > > > > I don’t recall any debate on the mailing lists. > > > > > > When using SMPTE timecode **in the context of subtitling**, external > context would dictate whether it is possible to calculate intervals between > SMPTE timecode values. > > i.e. regardless of any attribute in the TTML file, only the external > context *truly* knows if the ‘matching’ AV asset has continuous timecode. > > > > Even if a file is attributed as discontinuous markerMode, a processor > might determine that the external AV asset is continuous (by examination of > all frames for example) and thus determine intervals. > > > > In general for me, the actual markerMode is a moot point, since I would > generally expect a processor to act ‘intelligently’… that is, treat the > timecodes as markers (for in an out cues)… and perhaps only use timecode > arithmetic if it was in possession of a ‘bigger picture’ of the timeline of > the associated AV material. > > > > But, this is only my perspective from a subtitling point of view… > > > > If markerMode is deprecated, I would strongly suggest that all SMPTE > timecodes are markers. I.e. the effective markerMode is then always > ‘discontinuous’. > That is the intent of deprecation: to always force 'discontinuous' interpretation. > > > Best regards, > > John > > > > > *John Birch | Strategic Partnerships Manager | Screen *Main Line : +44 > 1473 831700 | Ext : 2208 | Direct Dial : +44 1473 834532 > Mobile : +44 7919 558380 | Fax : +44 1473 830078 > John.Birch@screensystems.tv | www.screensystems.tv | > https://twitter.com/screensystems > > > *Visit us at IBC, RAI Amsterdam, 12-16 Sept, stand 1.C49* > > *P** Before printing, think about the environment* > > *From:* Nigel Megitt [mailto:nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk] > *Sent:* 11 July 2014 15:03 > *To:* TTWG > *Subject:* deprecating markerMode > > > > All, > > > > we noted in TTML1SE that ttp:markerMode may be deprecated, removing the > possibility of using the value continuous (NB this is relevant only when > timeBase = smpte). Can anyone remind me where the debate is on this? We > don't seem to have an issue open for it and I don't recall discussing it. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Nigel > > > > *--* > > > > *Nigel Megitt* > > Lead Technologist, BBC Technology, Distribution & Archives > > Telephone: +44 (0)3030807996 > > Internal (Lync): 0807996 > > BC4 A3 Broadcast Centre, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP > > > > This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If > you are not the intended recipient you must not use, copy, disclose or take > any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have > received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by > reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. > Screen Subtitling Systems Ltd. Registered in England No. 2596832. > Registered Office: The Old Rectory, Claydon Church Lane, Claydon, Ipswich, > Suffolk, IP6 0EQ > >
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