- From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
- Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:53:27 +0000
- To: Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <D0080E02.F74B%nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
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Agenda+ Assign Roles
Chair: Nigel Megitt
Scribe: [to assign during meeting]
Regrets:
Activity since last meeting:
Actions: Action-310, Action-311, Action-314, Action-318;
Issues discussed: Issue-331;
Issues raised: none;
Geneva F2F survey responses;
Call for Exclusion on IMSC.
Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting
Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest:
1. Geneva F2F September
2. MPEG liaison re MIME Codecs parameter, if we're quorate on this topic
3. Action Items.
4. Issues - pending review first, then open and discussed, then open on IMSC 1 but not discussed
5. Planning for next change proposals to work on
6. AOB – please notify now!
Reminder re future meetings as agreed last week:
August 7: 1 hour
August 14: 2 hours
August 21: 1 hour
August 28: cancelled
Agenda+ Geneva F2F September
ACTION-295<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/295>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/295/edit> pending review Socialise the geneva f2f meeting amongst the webvtt community<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/295> David Singer 2014-06-05
Survey created at [1], should now be open to TTWG and TTCG members.
Please complete this survey even if you will not attend. The survey closes in 1 week, on 15th August.
There have been some responses from attendees this week, including several WebVTT folk who are unable to attend.
Wiki page at [2] including draft agenda.
By the way, TPAC registration is open, but the registration form has not yet been updated to reflect our decision to meet on the Tuesday (as well as the Monday, which is listed).
Agenda+ Call for exclusion (Patent Policy) on IMSC
Just for noting, the email call for exclusion is at [3].
Agenda+ MPEG liaison re MIME Codecs parameter
ISSUE-305<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305/edit>
Profile short names PENDING REVIEW Register of TTML profiles and short names<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305> 2014-05-01 1 Timed Text Working Group<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/>
ISSUE-280<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/280>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/280/edit>
nested-profiles CLOSED Add ability to define a profile from multiple profiles.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/280> 2013-09-06 TTML2 0
ACTION-284<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/284>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/284/edit> closed Create the registry page<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/284> Glenn Adams 2014-05-01
ACTION-290<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/290>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/290/edit> open Describe the history for how we got to the signalling needed for mpeg that came from dece for issue-305.<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/290> Mike Dolan 2014-05-29
Liaison in mail archive at [4] and text reproduced in ACTION-282. Response at [5].
Agenda+ Action items pending review
ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
ACTION-310<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/310>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/310/edit> pending review Follow up with staff re andreas's membership status<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/310> Nigel Megitt 2014-08-07
ACTION-312<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/312>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/312/edit> pending review Add ednote to ttml2 about timing computation on out-of-line animations w.r.t. their referring element(s)<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/312> Glenn Adams 2014-08-07
ACTION-313<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/313>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/313/edit> pending review Create erratum for issue-314<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/313> Glenn Adams 2014-08-07
ACTION-314<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/314>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/314/edit> pending review Raise an issue on imsc1 for an advisory note on forceddisplay and region backgrounds.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/314> Nigel Megitt 2014-08-07 forcedDisplay region background note<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/331>
ACTION-315<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/315>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/315/edit> pending review Change "informative" to "not normative" everywhere in imsc 1<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/315> Pierre-Anthony Lemieux 2014-08-07 TTML IMSC 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/7>
ACTION-316<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/316>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/316/edit> pending review Define temporally active region in ttml1 for issue-314.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/316> Glenn Adams 2014-08-07
ACTION-317<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/317>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/317/edit> pending review Create a link from presentation processor in imsc 1 to the definition in §2.2 of ttml 1 se.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/317> Pierre-Anthony Lemieux 2014-08-07 TTML IMSC 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/7>
ACTION-318<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/318>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/318/edit> pending review Draft note wording for imsc conformance to disambiguate vs ttml presentation processor conformance and dfxp profile requirement.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/318> Nigel Megitt 2014-08-07 TTML IMSC 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/7>
Agenda+ Action items overdue and due next week
ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
ACTION-290<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/290>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/290/edit> open Describe the history for how we got to the signalling needed for mpeg that came from dece for issue-305.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/290> Mike Dolan 2014-05-29
ACTION-307<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/307>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/307/edit> open Assign priorities to change proposals owned by mdolan<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/307> Mike Dolan 2014-07-24
ACTION-309<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/309>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/309/edit> open Propose a timeline for ttml 2 fpwd<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/309> Nigel Megitt 2014-07-31
ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
ACTION-311<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/311>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/311/edit> open Check with mdolan on status of issue-263 and issue-305 etc<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/311> Nigel Megitt 2014-08-07
Agenda+ Issues pending review, discussed, raised over the past week and open on IMSC 1
Pending Review
ID State Title Raised on Product Open Actions
ISSUE-263<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/263>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/263/edit> PENDING REVIEW profile feature set may not match intended feature constraints<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/263> 2013-07-17 TTML Simple Delivery Profile for Closed Captions (US) 0
ISSUE-314<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/314>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/314/edit>
Temporally active is not defined for regions PENDING REVIEW Temporally active is not defined for regions<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/314> 2014-05-21 TTML 1.0 0
ISSUE-331<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/331>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/331/edit>
forcedDisplay region background note PENDING REVIEW An advisory note on the use of backgrounds on regions in combination with forcedDisplay<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/331> 2014-08-01 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
We have a limited timescale for working on IMSC 1, as previously agreed. The following issues are currently Open on IMSC 1:
ID State Title Raised on Product Open Actions
ISSUE-307<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/307>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/307/edit>
Profile and conformance terminology OPEN Conformance language and processor profile rather than content profile.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/307> 2014-05-02 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-310<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/310>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/310/edit>
progressivelyDecodable needs hierarchical definition OPEN Forward reference rule doesn't take into account child elements<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/310> 2014-05-21 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-311<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/311>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/311/edit>
Note on progressivelyDecodable OPEN Note on progressivelyDecodable is not a sentence<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/311> 2014-05-21 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-315<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/315>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/315/edit>
Maximum number of regions should be a processor constraint OPEN Maximum number of regions should be a processor constraint<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/315> 2014-05-21 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-319<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/319>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/319/edit>
HRM should be a processor compliance test OPEN HRM should be a processor compliance test and allow different levels of complexity for different use cases<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/319> 2014-05-23 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-327<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/327>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/327/edit>
IMSC should meet W3C QA Framework Spec guidelines OPEN IMSC should meet W3C QA Framework Spec guidelines<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/327> 2014-07-21 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-330<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/330>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/330/edit>
Is Presented Region a synonym for temporally active region? OPEN Is Presented Region a synonym for temporally active region?<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/330> 2014-07-28 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
Agenda+ Change Proposals – progress and review
Change Proposal Index is at [6]. Priorities have yet to be assigned by Mike (see actions above).
Our current priority 1 CPs are:
1 OPEN 1 Jerry Smith TTML2 Amendments to the set attribute<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal001>
5 OPEN 1 Jerry Smith TTML2 HTML5 Mapping semantics<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal005>
12 OPEN 1 Glenn Adams TTML2 Profile fixes<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal012>
15 OPEN 1 Glenn Adams TTML2 Style.CSS additions<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal015>
16 OPEN 1 Glenn Adams TTML2 Style.Conditional<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal016>
17 OPEN 1 Glenn Adams TTML2 Style.Defaults<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal017>
19 OPEN 1 Glenn Adams TTML2 Style.Syntax fixes<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal019>
25 OPEN 1 Nigel Megitt TTML2 Distribution<https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal025>
Timeline updated in 13th Mar meeting. This isn't looking very realistic right now:
January-March: Clean up and complete CPs
April-July: Draft, iterate and edit solutions to CP issues <-- We're still here!
August: Last Call
Agenda+ AOB
References
[1] WBS Survey for Geneva F2F https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34314/TTWG_Geneva_F2F_Planning/
[2] Geneva F2F wiki page with draft agenda https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/geneva2014
[3] Call for Exclusions (Update): TTML Text and Image Profiles for Internet Media Subtitles and Captions 1.0 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2014Jul/0054.html
[4] MPEG Liaison re Codecs parameter http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2014Apr/0005.html
[5] W3C response to MPEG Liaison re Codecs parameter http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2014Apr/0025.html
[6] Change Proposals at http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex
Tracker http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/trackerTTML
Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
Received on Wednesday, 6 August 2014 15:53:59 UTC