- From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
- Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 18:14:24 +1100
- To: "Philippe Le Hegaret" <plh@w3.org>
- Cc: public-tt@w3.org
Ah, thanks - only just saw this email now. I think that's a good decision - only one mechanism to specify identifiers. In Gecko it may well be possible to simply map that to "id". Thanks, Silvia. On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 3:23 AM, Philippe Le Hegaret <plh@w3.org> wrote: > Hello Silvia, > > we discussed the topic of xml:id vs id again today. > > Since all existing DFXP players are either using xml:id or planning to > do so, we concluded that the specification was fine as it was and it was > better indeed to support only one way mechanism. > > Regards, > > Philippe > > ISSUE-14 > > > On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 23:08 +1100, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: >> Hi, >> >> If I may, I'd like to contribute some information to the xml:id vs id >> discussion. >> >> I am aware that most players by now support xml:id, and that this may >> be regarded as a reason to keep it in the spec. >> >> However, I have had feedback from another person looking to use DFXP >> for subtitles in Web video. Here is what he wrote: >> >> "xml:id support in Gecko was attempted but it was pulled due to >> performance issues. xml:id support has explicitly been decided against >> in WebKit. The problem with xml:id on the general level is that it >> breaks the assumption that an element can have only one ID attribute. >> xml:id has already turned out to be more complex than expected for the >> HTML5 Validator.nu. Currently, it seems that xml:id is falling out of >> favor when it comes to browser-targeted XML vocabularies. (I'd prefer >> DFXP to use an element called 'id' in no namespace instead of xml:id. >> However, if at this point existing implementations support xml:id, it >> may be better to stick to xml:id as the *only* way--since having two >> ways is the problem--as long as xml:id isn't leaked to the >> general-purpose Gecko DOM e.g. through a scripting API.)" >> >> I would support removing xml:id - in fact, I would support removing >> the use of namespaces where possible. It will make implementation much >> more lightweight. But that's a different discussion altogether. >> >> Best Regards, >> Silvia. >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:45 PM, David Kirby <david.kirby@rd.bbc.co.uk> wrote: >> > >> > Here's the agenda for tomorrow's meeting. >> > David >> > ============= >> > >> > TT agenda for Friday 5th Dec 2008 >> > Time: 10am Eastern, 3pm UK, 7am Pacific. >> > >> > 1) Review action items >> > www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/open >> > >> > 2) Issues arising >> > www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/open >> > >> > [Plus: >> > a) Spec needs to say that user agent must define a default region (replaces >> > action item 15) >> > b) Spec needs to say that a dfxp file containing only timing and text will >> > be displayed by a UA. >> > c) tts:textDecoration should be "lineThrough" and "noLineThrough" (Geoff's >> > email) >> > d) allow both xml:id and id? >> > e) Support for multiple languages (i.e. xml:lang on div?) ] >> > >> > 3) Proposed survey of issues >> > >> > 4) Progress with testing >> > - xml:space (clarify behaviour) >> > - Any other issues arising from the testing? >> > >> > 5) dynamicFlow >> > >> > 6) SMPTE >> > >> > 7) AOB >> > >> > > >
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