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Re: Timeline for TPE Last Call and Update of Acknowledgements

From: Ninja Marnau <ninja@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 16:58:46 +0100
Message-ID: <53305636.50903@w3.org>
To: rob@blaeu.com, David Wainberg <dwainberg@appnexus.com>
CC: "public-tracking@w3.org (public-tracking@w3.org)" <public-tracking@w3.org>
David, Rob, thank you for your feedback. We will discuss your suggestion 
among Chairs and team.

While I completely understand your concerns, please note that the Chairs 
did not specify this review period arbitrarily. The usual timeframe for 
other Working Groups for Last Call review is three weeks (even for other 
complex and long documents). The Chairs already did extend this period 
to 30 days to accommodate the complexity of the spec.

Best regards,
Ninja


Am 24.03.14 16:12, schrieb Rob van Eijk:
> Hi Ninja, WG members,
>
> I wish to second David's request to extend the window for public 
> comments.
>
> Regards,
> Rob
>
> David Wainberg schreef op 2014-03-24 16:05:
>> Hi Ninja, and WG members,
>>
>>  The WG must give more than 30 days for public comments. Giving only
>> 30 days would be sending a message that you don't really want
>> feedback.
>>
>>  For companies, especially smaller companies, who will be affected by
>> this to give comments, they will have to:
>>
>>     * first learn of the LC document and the comment period;
>>      * then read and understand a long and complex document, without the
>> benefit of having participated in our discussion for the past two
>> years;
>>
>>     * then, technical, policy, and legal people will have to work
>> together to understand their challenges for implementation or to
>> determine areas of the spec that they do not understand;
>>
>>     * in most cases they will then have to present this understanding to
>> executives and get a consensus position for the company; and
>>      * finally, they then need to prepare this feedback into public
>> comments
>>
>> For very many companies, this will take in excess of only 4 weeks. It
>> can often take a week or two just to find a meeting time that works
>> for all required attendees. We cannot expect them to drop their other
>> work to turn around comments on this very complex issue in such a
>> short time. If we are serious about taking feedback, and this is not
>> merely a pro forma exercise, I ask that we please extend the comment
>> period to 90 days. That is the minimum reasonable amount of time for
>> most smaller companies to be able to provide feedback.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> David
>>
>> On 2014-03-21 8:21 PM, Ninja Marnau wrote:
>>
>>> Dear WG members,
>>>
>>> we are closing in on TPE Last Call. This does not mean that our
>>> work is done but rather that we have a document, which is in a
>>> stage, where we, as a Working Group, think we have satisfied the
>>> relevant technical requirements and want to present it to the public
>>> and ask for technical reviews from stakeholders and experts. [1]
>>>
>>> Thank you all for the great work, your time and patience that you
>>> contributed to this document!
>>>
>>> We plan for the Editors, Roy and David, to walk the group through
>>> the Last Call ready version of the document on the call on March 26.
>>> You will have one more week after this call to ask questions and
>>> propose last editorial changes. So please prepare to provide your
>>> editorial feedback before the WG call on April 2nd at the latest.
>>> Please also keep in mind that editorial changes are only those, for
>>> which someone could reasonably expect that making the changes would
>>> not invalidate an individual's review or implementation experience.
>>>
>>> From April 3 to April 16 the Co-Chairs will ask the Working Group
>>> to make the decision for advancement of the document to Last Call.
>>> If there are SUBSTANTIATED TECHNICAL OBJECTIONS against the Last
>>> Call advancement, you can raise them during this timeframe by
>>> sending an email to the mailing list. We hope to announce the
>>> successful advancement to Last Call on April 17.
>>>
>>> The Last Call announcement will be followed by a 30 days period, in
>>> which the Working Group asks for external technical reviews (until
>>> May 16). These technical reviews will be the basis for our further
>>> work on TPE.
>>>
>>> In order to update the document before Last Call I would also like
>>> to ask you to review the ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS [2]. If you have
>>> contributed to TPE but are not listed, please let us know.
>>>
>>> Ninja
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#last-call
>>> [1]
>>>
>>> [2]
>>>
>> http://www.w3.org/2011/tracking-protection/drafts/tracking-dnt.html#acknowledgements 
>>
>>> [2]
>>
>>
>>
>> Links:
>> ------
>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#last-call
>> [2]
>> http://www.w3.org/2011/tracking-protection/drafts/tracking-dnt.html#acknowledgements 
>>
>
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