Re: Batch closing of TPE related issues

On Jun 18, 2013, at 13:42 , Rigo Wenning <rigo@w3.org> wrote:

> On Tuesday 18 June 2013 11:35:15 David Singer wrote:
>>> Could you please opine on the proposal to allow OOBC to be recorded
>>> in the UGE registry with a pointer to the control mechanism?  
>> That's almost the definition of in-band exceptions, isn't it?
> 
> OOBC was seen as legacy. My goal was to make getting an exception easier 
> and also getting rid of the exception. If we store OOBC with its heavier 
> procedures and other problems into the store, we create another parallel 
> DNT exception mechanism that you can customize at will. And 
> customization means I can make it arbitrarily harder to opt out. (Do you 
> really really really want to opt out?)
> So storing the OOBC in the UGE store is taking advantage of the user 
> tradeoff (persistent store) but doesn't pay for it by allowing easy opt-
> out. That's why I have a feeling that it is kind of cheating. 
> 
> On the other hand, the more Shane stores in the UGE with links to opt 
> out, the better compared to the current situation. 
> 
> But my ultimate fear is that someone takes an UGE, mentally transforms 
> and re-lables the UGE into OOBC that trumps everything and refuses any 
> opt out or makes it arbitrarily difficult. Would this be compliant? If 
> yes, Houston has a problem.... If not, how can we prevent that?
> 
> --Rigo

As I say, I thought we had agreement that if you think you have consent you (a) have to tell the user and (b) have to offer the 'edit' link, in the well-known resource, for them to understand and possibly revoke their consent.

Now, if the service no longer works without consent, that page may have to explain you either keep the account and the consent, or lose both.  But that's the breaks…


David Singer
Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.

Received on Tuesday, 18 June 2013 20:50:54 UTC