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Re: ACTION-253 ISSUE: 119 and ACTION 208 ISSUE-148 Response signal for "not tracking" and definition for DNT:0

From: David Wainberg <david@networkadvertising.org>
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 19:42:31 -0400
Message-ID: <50526F67.5050501@networkadvertising.org>
To: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
CC: "Amy Colando (LCA)" <acolando@microsoft.com>, Nicholas Doty <npdoty@w3.org>, "public-tracking@w3.org" <public-tracking@w3.org>

On 9/13/12 4:48 PM, David Singer wrote:
> On Sep 13, 2012, at 13:08 , "Amy Colando (LCA)" <acolando@microsoft.com> wrote:
>> This is (one of) the items that continues to confuse me about the "no tracking" claim -- aren't all of these examples that David Singer cites below (including the original example of http://duckduckgo.com/) first parties?  In which case, having a first party say that they don't make use of the permitted uses that apply only to third parties makes little sense.  And I cannot imagine a scenario in which a third party would respond that they weren't making use of permitted use exceptions -- they simply wouldn't be present on the site at all.
> Let's try some examples:
> First parties that can say "we don't do tracking" -- general purpose sites, sites hosted by providers that only provide aggregate statistics, 'small' sites (think of high schools)
> Third parties that can say "we don't do tracking" -- sites providing web resources like web badges, style sheets, and script libraries
> These sites don't use anything a first party is allowed to do, let alone what a third party is allowed to do when it claims permissions, or gets an exception.  First-party sites that are 'non-tracking' can safely be embedded (if they allow it) in frames in other sites, for example (whereupon they now stand in a 3rd party position).
These is where I get confused. Are we talking about data collection or 
use? Do you mean those sites would say they collect no data whatsoever? 
Or would they be saying they may collect /some/ data but do not engage 
in the permitted uses?
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