Re: ACTION-212: Draft text on how user agents must obtain consent to turn on a DNT signal

Hi Jeff,

I don't follow your statement that this would rob users of effective 
privacy tools. It merely ensures that DNT signals reflect users' 
deliberate choices, and that users are provided information about the 
effects of their choices. I don't see why that should be controversial.

-David

On 11/13/12 12:31 PM, Jeffrey Chester wrote:
> This thrust is very problematic and I believe robs users of effective 
> privacy tools under DNT ("A user agent must not express a tracking 
> preference for a user."). CDD certainly cannot support such a 
> proposal, and there needs to be a robust discussion on the negative 
> impact to users from denying them privacy protection through IE and 
> other browsers.
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> On Nov 13, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Alan Chapell wrote:
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>> Thanks Shane. I've proposed some additions (*IN BOLD*) to your 
>> language. Thanks to David Wainberg for help drafting, and Walter for 
>> providing some direction with his comments to the list.
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>> Section 5.  User Agent Compliance
>> A user agent must offer a control to express a tracking preference to 
>> third parties. The control must communicate the user's preference in 
>> accordance with the [TRACKING-DNT] recommendation and otherwise 
>> comply with that recommendation. A user agent must not express a 
>> tracking preference for a user unless the user has given express and 
>> informed consent to indicate a tracking preference.
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>> *A UA MUST incorporate detection mechanisms for alteration of 
>> DNT-preferences by third-party software (including third-party 
>> UA-extensions and plugins) and MUST upon detection of such changes 
>> verify with the user that they reflect the user's intentions. The UA 
>> MAY provide the user with the option to ignore future changes in the 
>> DNT-preferences or to automatically change them back to a user-set 
>> preference.*
>> "The User Agent MUST make available explanatory text to provide more 
>> detailed information about DNT functionality within easy and direct 
>> access for the particular environment prior to DNT being enabled. 
>> *The explanatory text MUST include** information pertaining to 
>> the** effects of DNT, including that ***the User's choice to enact 
>> DNT* might interfere with the operation of certain content and 
>> services and might limit free content that may be available to the 
>> User."*
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>> Alan
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>> From: Shane Wiley <wileys@yahoo-inc.com <mailto:wileys@yahoo-inc.com>>
>> Date: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 5:19 AM
>> To: "public-tracking@w3.org <mailto:public-tracking@w3.org>" 
>> <public-tracking@w3.org <mailto:public-tracking@w3.org>>
>> Subject: ACTION-212: Draft text on how user agents must obtain 
>> consent to turn on a DNT signal
>> Resent-From: <public-tracking@w3.org <mailto:public-tracking@w3.org>>
>> Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:20:06 +0000
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>>> [Proposed, New Text in Quotes “ “]
>>> Section 5.  User Agent Compliance
>>> A user agent must offer a control to express a tracking preference 
>>> to third parties. The control must communicate the user's preference 
>>> in accordance with the [TRACKING-DNT] recommendation and otherwise 
>>> comply with that recommendation. A user agent must not express a 
>>> tracking preference for a user unless the user has given express and 
>>> informed consent to indicate a tracking preference.
>>> “The User Agent MUST make available explanatory text to provide more 
>>> detailed information about DNT functionality within easy and direct 
>>> access for the particular environment prior to DNT being enabled.”
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