- From: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
- Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:55:12 -0700
- To: Lauren Gelman <gelman@blurryedge.com>
- Cc: Tracking Protection Working Group WG <public-tracking@w3.org>
On Mar 28, 2012, at 11:35 , Lauren Gelman wrote:
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> Is there consensus on (b).
I thought so. We discussed in Brussels the scenario: the user has a relationship with site A, and has agreed (for example) to their privacy policy. A has represented that site B is part of the same party, and data has passed from A to B. B now does something contrary to the policy with the user's data. The user complains to A (who they have a relationship with). A *cannot* now respond "that's not me, that's someone else, take it up with them" because they previously claimed to be the same party.
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> On Mar 27, 2012, at 4:44 PM, David Singer wrote:
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>> After reading this thread, I am still unsure as to what concrete problem is being addressed.
>>
>> Did we not have requirements before that to be considered a single party, two sites must
>> a) make that party relationship discoverable
>> and
>> b) have a legal relationship such that data flows between the sites are protected by the same obligations, duties etc. (I don't recall the phrasing).
>>
>> ?
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>> It seems that we need to cover the cases:
>> * a 1st party asks for exceptions; I think it beholden on the party to explain how broadly this applies ("this permission is not just for the bogville chronicle, but all organizations in the BogNews group").
>> * a 3rd party wants a web-wide exception; again, the same applies - explain to the user the affected properties;
>> * a site that the UA doesn't immediately detect as the 1st party sends the return header "I am the first party" - the UA can check that they are, or smell a rat.
>>
>> Under what circumstances do we need something more than (and more subjective than) (a) and (b) above (suitably phrased), to meet these needs? What does (for example) a 'branding' requirement add?
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>> David Singer
>> Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
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> Lauren Gelman
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David Singer
Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
Received on Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:56:17 UTC