RE: Service Provider Status (ISSUE-137)

I don’t have a problem with the first three items.

Item 4) appears to be out of scope for our work since the service provider is not involved in the session. I feel sending a list to the UA is to inform the UA of the status of a third-party site. Since the UA can’t see the site why send unusable information?

JC

From: Jonathan Mayer [mailto:jmayer@stanford.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:53 AM
To: JC Cannon
Cc: W3C DNT Working Group Mailing List
Subject: Re: Service Provider Status (ISSUE-137)

Here are some concrete use cases with service provider ambiguity.

1) HTTP traffic goes to a website that looks like a third party, but is actually a service provider.
Example: News.com<http://News.com> embeds content from Analytics.com<http://Analytics.com>.
Solution: A simple Service Provider flag (e.g. "Tk: S").

2) HTTP traffic goes to a website that looks like a first party, but is actually a service provider.
Example: Blog.com<http://Blog.com> is hosted by BlogPlatform.com<http://BlogPlatform.com>.
Solution: A simple Service Provider flag (e.g. "Tk: S") plus some sort of party identification (e.g. a "Tk-Party: blogplatform.com" response header or a "party" field in the status resource).

3) HTTP traffic goes to a website that is a service provider, but it's unclear which party it's working for.
Example: Analytics.com<http://Analytics.com> appears buried in a set of advertising iframes on News.com<http://News.com>.
Solution: A Service Provider can signal the party it's working for (e.g. a "Tk-Service: news.com<http://news.com>" response header or a "service-provider-party" field in the status resource).

4) A website uses a service provider on the backend.
Example: Shopping.com<http://Shopping.com> copies its user account data into a cloud-based CRM service.
Solution: A list of service providers in a party's tracking status resource.


On Wednesday, August 29, 2012 at 9:38 AM, JC Cannon wrote:

Could you describe a scenario where the service provider is not on HTTP? How would it send a response I the first place? Are you talking about offline scenarios?



Thanks,

JC



From: Jonathan Mayer [mailto:jmayer@stanford.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:36 AM
To: W3C DNT Working Group Mailing List
Subject: Re: Service Provider Status (ISSUE-137)



A related design decision: What about service providers that aren't at visible via HTTP?  I don't think we have consensus on this yet.



On Wednesday, August 29, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Jonathan Mayer wrote:

Some possible status ambiguities for service providers.  All are solvable with trivial engineering.



-If a service provider is using its own domain:

         -Is the entity a first party, third party, or service provider?

         -Which party is it providing outsourcing services to?  (Might be multiple parties in different roles.)

-If a service provider is using a different party's domain (e.g. a CNAMEd analytics service):

         -Who is the service provider?