- From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 10:39:41 +1100
- To: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
- Cc: Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com>, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>, Jay Munro <jaymunro@microsoft.com>, Richard Eyre <rick.eyre@hotmail.com>, "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>, "public-texttracks@w3.org" <public-texttracks@w3.org>
Very nice! Cheers, Silvia. On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:24 AM, David Singer <singer@apple.com> wrote: > Carlos, guys > > you are heroes!! thank you!! > > On Feb 18, 2014, at 17:44 , Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Sorry for the spam, I forgot to mention where it was uploaded to. >> >> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/concepts/VTT_Captioning >> >> >> On Jan 13, 2014, at 9:58 PM, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi, Carlos- >>> >>> You can upload the content whenever you like! If you need help with the process, I can lend a hand. Let me know what you need to get started. If you like, we can even set up a phone/skype call or IRC session to tackle it. >>> >>> Regards- >>> -Doug >>> >>> On 1/12/14 1:19 PM, Carlos Araya wrote: >>>> Doug, >>>> >>>> Let me know when to upload the content. >>>> >>>> I'll be happy to write the blog post :) >>>> >>>> Carlos >>>> >>>> On Jan 12, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, Carlos- >>>>> >>>>> I think it should be under multimedia [1], which makes me realize that we should have multimedia as a top-level topic on our landing page [2]. >>>>> >>>>> Also, are you interested in writing a post for our blog about your contribution, and about VTT (the history, the tech, the use cases, the market and competition, etc.)? >>>>> >>>>> [1] http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/tutorials/multimedia >>>>> [2] http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Main_Page >>>>> >>>>> Regards- >>>>> -Doug >>>>> >>>>> On 1/11/14 7:48 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: >>>>>> Also, I think we should really add a link to the spec at >>>>>> http://dev.w3.org/html5/webvtt/ . ;-) >>>>>> And also to the community group at http://www.w3.org/community/texttracks/ . >>>>>> >>>>>> If you're keen, feel free to add the following links, too: >>>>>> >>>>>> * http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/track/basics/ - intro to text >>>>>> tracks >>>>>> * https://github.com/silviapfeiffer/WebVTT-with-regions - polyfill >>>>>> experiments by editor >>>>>> * >>>>>> http://wiki.webmproject.org/webm-metadata/temporal-metadata/webvtt-in-webm >>>>>> - specification for embedding WebVTT into WebM >>>>>> * http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pantos-http-live-streaming-12 - >>>>>> specification for using WebVTT as part of HTTP Live Streaming (HLS) >>>>>> * >>>>>> http://concolato.wp.mines-telecom.fr/2013/07/28/webvtt-mp4-files-dash-and-gpac/ >>>>>> - WebVTT in MP4 >>>>>> (which reminds me that a section on in-band WebVTT may be another useful >>>>>> addition to the page) >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Silvia. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer >>>>>> <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com <mailto:silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Ah excellent - I thought you might have missed it because I didn't >>>>>> receive a reply email. ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway, I just checked and found some typos that you may want to >>>>>> correct: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Typo: missed a "by" >>>>>> s/Optional Cue Settings separated from the time one or more SPACE or >>>>>> TAB characters/Optional Cue Settings separated from the time by one >>>>>> or more SPACE or TAB characters/ >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. Non-readable sentences: >>>>>> "Using timestamp tags can build Karaoke Style tracks." >>>>>> I think you mean something like: >>>>>> "Timestamp tags can be used to build Karaoke style tracks." >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. Typo: missed "are" >>>>>> s/Timestamp tags can also be used for Paint On captions, which >>>>>> placed independently from each other and don't erase what was >>>>>> already on the screen/Timestamp tags can also be used for Paint On >>>>>> captions, which are placed independently from each other and don't >>>>>> erase what was already on the screen/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Other than that, it's really looking awesome! >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Silvia. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Carlos Araya >>>>>> <carlos.araya@gmail.com <mailto:carlos.araya@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Silvia, >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, I incorporated all feedback received on this thread into >>>>>> the document. Is there something I missed? >>>>>> >>>>>> Carlos >>>>>> On Jan 11, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer >>>>>> <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com <mailto:silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Carlos, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I gave you feedback on the other thread - has that been >>>>>>> incorporated? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Silvia. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Carlos Araya >>>>>>> <carlos.araya@gmail.com <mailto:carlos.araya@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think I'm good with the tutorial. It could use one more >>>>>>> round of feedback before moving it to the WPD site. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That bring another question, what is the best place for >>>>>>> the VTT tutorial within the WPD doc web site? I haven't >>>>>>> made up my mind if it falls under HTML, Accessibility or >>>>>>> general web concepts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any ideas? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Carlos >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Carlos Araya >>>>>>> <carlos.araya@gmail.com <mailto:carlos.araya@gmail.com>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jay, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I added the links as notes to the supported browsers >>>>>>> table. Can you think of a better placement for the links? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Carlos >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Jay Munro >>>>>>> <jaymunro@microsoft.com >>>>>>> <mailto:jaymunro@microsoft.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Carlos, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Looks good, though here's a bit more: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Under IE, you've got documentation on the HTML5 >>>>>>> Rocks site. While a good site, Microsoft has a lot >>>>>>> of Text Track docs, with a number of examples. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is our technology start page: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/ie/bg123962.aspx >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here's where all the API docs are. The text track >>>>>>> API is mixed in with the audio/video/media elements. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/library/ie/hh772500.aspx >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There's a set of text track samples here, >>>>>>> including one that uses meta data to create a >>>>>>> slide show. MSDN locks us out of actually having >>>>>>> the demo online, so it might be a good candidate >>>>>>> to put on WebPlatform. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/ie/HTML5-Timed-Text-Track-9fddea75 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lastly, though a little dated, there's a demo on >>>>>>> ietestdrive.com <http://ietestdrive.com/> that has >>>>>>> an editor that will create WebVTT files (as well >>>>>>> as TTML files). I've been meaning to get around to >>>>>>> an update, but things have been busy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Graphics/CaptionMaker/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> IE HTML5 Timed Text Track sample in JavaScript, >>>>>>> HTML for Visual Studio 2010 >>>>>>> The examples shown here use the HTML5 track >>>>>>> element, and show you how to add video with >>>>>>> captioning and other features to your webpages. >>>>>>> Read more... >>>>>>> <http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/ie/HTML5-Timed-Text-Track-9fddea75> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> *From:* Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com >>>>>>> <mailto:carlos.araya@gmail.com>> >>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 14, 2013 10:59 AM >>>>>>> *To:* Richard Eyre >>>>>>> *Cc:* Silvia Pfeiffer; David Singer; >>>>>>> public-webplatform@w3.org >>>>>>> <mailto:public-webplatform@w3.org>; >>>>>>> public-texttracks@w3.org >>>>>>> <mailto:public-texttracks@w3.org>; Doug Schepers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: VTT authoring guide on Web Platform >>>>>>> Docs? >>>>>>> Richard, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you for the feedback. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've updated the information regarding Firefox >>>>>>> Nightly and added vtt.js to the lists of players >>>>>>> and polyfills. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What bug should I track for Cue formatting issues? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Carlos >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Richard Eyre >>>>>>> <rick.eyre@hotmail.com >>>>>>> <mailto:rick.eyre@hotmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not sure if this got through to the list >>>>>>> so if it did, apologies. I don't mean to spam >>>>>>> the list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Looks good at a quick pass Carlos. Two things: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Firefox Nightly is enabled by default now. A >>>>>>> patch landed a few days ago for that. >>>>>>> * Underneath the polyfill section you can list >>>>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/vtt.js. It's a >>>>>>> JavaScript implementation of the WebVTT spec >>>>>>> (not the track spec). In the future it might >>>>>>> evolve into a full <track> polyfill. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rick >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Carlos Araya >>>>>>> <carlos.araya@gmail.com >>>>>>> <mailto:carlos.araya@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I took a first stab at writing the VTT >>>>>>> tutorial. It's currently hosted in Github >>>>>>> to make it easier for people to contribute >>>>>>> examples and edits to the page. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://github.com/caraya/vtt-demos/blob/master/video_captioning.md >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please take a look at it and let me know >>>>>>> what you think needs to be changed and >>>>>>> what other things I should add. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Carlos >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Silvia >>>>>>> Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com >>>>>>> <mailto:silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Great to hear your interest! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would indeed encourage to write >>>>>>> about implemented reality, even >>>>>>> though that will probably continue to >>>>>>> improve over the next few >>>>>>> months. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You could explain the features as >>>>>>> specified and then explain what >>>>>>> works in the browsers now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This could, in fact, contribute to the >>>>>>> testing efforts of the <track> >>>>>>> element in HTML, see >>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Testing . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Silvia. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:44 PM, >>>>>>> Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com >>>>>>> <mailto:carlos.araya@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> I'd be interested in looking at >>>>>>> working on something like this. >>>>>>> However the first question that comes >>>>>>> to mind is whether we write to the way >>>>>>> the specification is written or to the >>>>>>> way it is supported. As far as I know >>>>>>> there is no complete implementation of >>>>>>> the VTT spec available,is there? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Carlos >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2013, at 12:43 PM, David >>>>>>> Singer <singer@apple.com >>>>>>> <mailto:singer@apple.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> it would be really cool to have an >>>>>>> authoring guide for VTT (unlike the >>>>>>> specification, which is essentially an >>>>>>> implementation guide) on >>>>>>> WebPlatformDocs. There are some >>>>>>> possible starting points, below, >>>>>>> though of course to use any of this >>>>>>> material we'd need to work with the >>>>>>> authors and get permission. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is there someone who would like to >>>>>>> pull this together and spearhead >>>>>>> getting a good authoring guide on this >>>>>>> important site? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/an-introduction-to-webvtt-and-track/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTML/WebVTT >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2011/10/12/html5-video-captioning.aspx >>>>>>>>>> http://www.delphiki.com/webvtt/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://demosthenes.info/blog/580/Make-Online-Video-Accessible-And-Searchable-With-WebVTT >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.accessiq.org/news/features/2013/03/webvtt-and-captioning-on-the-web >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> David Singer >>>>>>>>> Multimedia and Software Standards, >>>>>>> Apple Inc. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > David Singer > Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc. >
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