- From: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
- Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 11:24:03 -0800
- To: Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com>
- Cc: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>, Silvia Pfieffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>, Jay Munro <jaymunro@microsoft.com>, Richard Eyre <rick.eyre@hotmail.com>, "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>, "public-texttracks@w3.org" <public-texttracks@w3.org>
Carlos, guys you are heroes!! thank you!! On Feb 18, 2014, at 17:44 , Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry for the spam, I forgot to mention where it was uploaded to. > > http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/concepts/VTT_Captioning > > > On Jan 13, 2014, at 9:58 PM, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> wrote: > >> Hi, Carlos– >> >> You can upload the content whenever you like! If you need help with the process, I can lend a hand. Let me know what you need to get started. If you like, we can even set up a phone/skype call or IRC session to tackle it. >> >> Regards- >> -Doug >> >> On 1/12/14 1:19 PM, Carlos Araya wrote: >>> Doug, >>> >>> Let me know when to upload the content. >>> >>> I'll be happy to write the blog post :) >>> >>> Carlos >>> >>> On Jan 12, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, Carlos– >>>> >>>> I think it should be under multimedia [1], which makes me realize that we should have multimedia as a top-level topic on our landing page [2]. >>>> >>>> Also, are you interested in writing a post for our blog about your contribution, and about VTT (the history, the tech, the use cases, the market and competition, etc.)? >>>> >>>> [1] http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/tutorials/multimedia >>>> [2] http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Main_Page >>>> >>>> Regards- >>>> -Doug >>>> >>>> On 1/11/14 7:48 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: >>>>> Also, I think we should really add a link to the spec at >>>>> http://dev.w3.org/html5/webvtt/ . ;-) >>>>> And also to the community group at http://www.w3.org/community/texttracks/ . >>>>> >>>>> If you're keen, feel free to add the following links, too: >>>>> >>>>> * http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/track/basics/ - intro to text >>>>> tracks >>>>> * https://github.com/silviapfeiffer/WebVTT-with-regions - polyfill >>>>> experiments by editor >>>>> * >>>>> http://wiki.webmproject.org/webm-metadata/temporal-metadata/webvtt-in-webm >>>>> - specification for embedding WebVTT into WebM >>>>> * http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pantos-http-live-streaming-12 - >>>>> specification for using WebVTT as part of HTTP Live Streaming (HLS) >>>>> * >>>>> http://concolato.wp.mines-telecom.fr/2013/07/28/webvtt-mp4-files-dash-and-gpac/ >>>>> - WebVTT in MP4 >>>>> (which reminds me that a section on in-band WebVTT may be another useful >>>>> addition to the page) >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Silvia. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer >>>>> <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com <mailto:silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Ah excellent - I thought you might have missed it because I didn't >>>>> receive a reply email. ;-) >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, I just checked and found some typos that you may want to >>>>> correct: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Typo: missed a "by" >>>>> s/Optional Cue Settings separated from the time one or more SPACE or >>>>> TAB characters/Optional Cue Settings separated from the time by one >>>>> or more SPACE or TAB characters/ >>>>> >>>>> 2. Non-readable sentences: >>>>> "Using timestamp tags can build Karaoke Style tracks." >>>>> I think you mean something like: >>>>> "Timestamp tags can be used to build Karaoke style tracks." >>>>> >>>>> 3. Typo: missed "are" >>>>> s/Timestamp tags can also be used for Paint On captions, which >>>>> placed independently from each other and don't erase what was >>>>> already on the screen/Timestamp tags can also be used for Paint On >>>>> captions, which are placed independently from each other and don't >>>>> erase what was already on the screen/ >>>>> >>>>> Other than that, it's really looking awesome! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Silvia. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Carlos Araya >>>>> <carlos.araya@gmail.com <mailto:carlos.araya@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Silvia, >>>>> >>>>> Yes, I incorporated all feedback received on this thread into >>>>> the document. Is there something I missed? >>>>> >>>>> Carlos >>>>> On Jan 11, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer >>>>> <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com <mailto:silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Carlos, >>>>>> >>>>>> I gave you feedback on the other thread - has that been >>>>>> incorporated? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Silvia. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Carlos Araya >>>>>> <carlos.araya@gmail.com <mailto:carlos.araya@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think I'm good with the tutorial. It could use one more >>>>>> round of feedback before moving it to the WPD site. >>>>>> >>>>>> That bring another question, what is the best place for >>>>>> the VTT tutorial within the WPD doc web site? I haven't >>>>>> made up my mind if it falls under HTML, Accessibility or >>>>>> general web concepts. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any ideas? >>>>>> >>>>>> Carlos >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Carlos Araya >>>>>> <carlos.araya@gmail.com <mailto:carlos.araya@gmail.com>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Jay, >>>>>> >>>>>> I added the links as notes to the supported browsers >>>>>> table. Can you think of a better placement for the links? >>>>>> >>>>>> Carlos >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Jay Munro >>>>>> <jaymunro@microsoft.com >>>>>> <mailto:jaymunro@microsoft.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Carlos, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Looks good, though here's a bit more: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Under IE, you've got documentation on the HTML5 >>>>>> Rocks site. While a good site, Microsoft has a lot >>>>>> of Text Track docs, with a number of examples. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This is our technology start page: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/ie/bg123962.aspx >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's where all the API docs are. The text track >>>>>> API is mixed in with the audio/video/media elements. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/library/ie/hh772500.aspx >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> There's a set of text track samples here, >>>>>> including one that uses meta data to create a >>>>>> slide show. MSDN locks us out of actually having >>>>>> the demo online, so it might be a good candidate >>>>>> to put on WebPlatform. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/ie/HTML5-Timed-Text-Track-9fddea75 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Lastly, though a little dated, there's a demo on >>>>>> ietestdrive.com <http://ietestdrive.com/> that has >>>>>> an editor that will create WebVTT files (as well >>>>>> as TTML files). I've been meaning to get around to >>>>>> an update, but things have been busy. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Graphics/CaptionMaker/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> IE HTML5 Timed Text Track sample in JavaScript, >>>>>> HTML for Visual Studio 2010 >>>>>> The examples shown here use the HTML5 track >>>>>> element, and show you how to add video with >>>>>> captioning and other features to your webpages. >>>>>> Read more... >>>>>> <http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/ie/HTML5-Timed-Text-Track-9fddea75> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> *From:* Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:carlos.araya@gmail.com>> >>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 14, 2013 10:59 AM >>>>>> *To:* Richard Eyre >>>>>> *Cc:* Silvia Pfeiffer; David Singer; >>>>>> public-webplatform@w3.org >>>>>> <mailto:public-webplatform@w3.org>; >>>>>> public-texttracks@w3.org >>>>>> <mailto:public-texttracks@w3.org>; Doug Schepers >>>>>> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: VTT authoring guide on Web Platform >>>>>> Docs? >>>>>> Richard, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for the feedback. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've updated the information regarding Firefox >>>>>> Nightly and added vtt.js to the lists of players >>>>>> and polyfills. >>>>>> >>>>>> What bug should I track for Cue formatting issues? >>>>>> >>>>>> Carlos >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Richard Eyre >>>>>> <rick.eyre@hotmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:rick.eyre@hotmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not sure if this got through to the list >>>>>> so if it did, apologies. I don't mean to spam >>>>>> the list. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Looks good at a quick pass Carlos. Two things: >>>>>> >>>>>> * Firefox Nightly is enabled by default now. A >>>>>> patch landed a few days ago for that. >>>>>> * Underneath the polyfill section you can list >>>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/vtt.js. It's a >>>>>> JavaScript implementation of the WebVTT spec >>>>>> (not the track spec). In the future it might >>>>>> evolve into a full <track> polyfill. >>>>>> >>>>>> Rick >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Carlos Araya >>>>>> <carlos.araya@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:carlos.araya@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I took a first stab at writing the VTT >>>>>> tutorial. It's currently hosted in Github >>>>>> to make it easier for people to contribute >>>>>> examples and edits to the page. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://github.com/caraya/vtt-demos/blob/master/video_captioning.md >>>>>> >>>>>> Please take a look at it and let me know >>>>>> what you think needs to be changed and >>>>>> what other things I should add. >>>>>> >>>>>> Carlos >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Silvia >>>>>> Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Great to hear your interest! >>>>>> >>>>>> I would indeed encourage to write >>>>>> about implemented reality, even >>>>>> though that will probably continue to >>>>>> improve over the next few >>>>>> months. >>>>>> >>>>>> You could explain the features as >>>>>> specified and then explain what >>>>>> works in the browsers now. >>>>>> >>>>>> This could, in fact, contribute to the >>>>>> testing efforts of the <track> >>>>>> element in HTML, see >>>>>> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Testing . >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Silvia. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:44 PM, >>>>>> Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:carlos.araya@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> I'd be interested in looking at >>>>>> working on something like this. >>>>>> However the first question that comes >>>>>> to mind is whether we write to the way >>>>>> the specification is written or to the >>>>>> way it is supported. As far as I know >>>>>> there is no complete implementation of >>>>>> the VTT spec available,is there? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Carlos >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2013, at 12:43 PM, David >>>>>> Singer <singer@apple.com >>>>>> <mailto:singer@apple.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it would be really cool to have an >>>>>> authoring guide for VTT (unlike the >>>>>> specification, which is essentially an >>>>>> implementation guide) on >>>>>> WebPlatformDocs. There are some >>>>>> possible starting points, below, >>>>>> though of course to use any of this >>>>>> material we’d need to work with the >>>>>> authors and get permission. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is there someone who would like to >>>>>> pull this together and spearhead >>>>>> getting a good authoring guide on this >>>>>> important site? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/an-introduction-to-webvtt-and-track/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> http://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTML/WebVTT >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2011/10/12/html5-video-captioning.aspx >>>>>>>>> http://www.delphiki.com/webvtt/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> http://demosthenes.info/blog/580/Make-Online-Video-Accessible-And-Searchable-With-WebVTT >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.accessiq.org/news/features/2013/03/webvtt-and-captioning-on-the-web >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> David Singer >>>>>>>> Multimedia and Software Standards, >>>>>> Apple Inc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > David Singer Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
Received on Wednesday, 19 February 2014 19:24:41 UTC