- From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 08:09:33 +1000
- To: tim@globaltimoto.com
- Cc: public-texttracks@w3.org
Do you have a study that supports your statistic? I've looked around for information about this and only found forum after forum where people complained that captions with outline only are unreadable because the outline is too thin, not dark enough, and doesn't provide sufficient contrast. Given that we want to allow both anyway (outline and background), it's just a matter of what the default setting in the browser is. You should always be able to change it as a user. So, we probably need some statement about encouraging browser vendors to provide user settings for captions. A recommendation could include the following options for background: off, light, solid. And the following options for outline: off, pixel width, color, shadow. This would go into the HTML spec. In addition, this contributes to the need to have CSS for stand-alone WebVTT - probably a means to specify inline CSS: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15023 Cheers, Silvia. On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Tim Hull <tim@globaltimoto.com> wrote: > I generally agree with Glenn. > > On some very rare occasions I may have seen a box bg at the cinema and it is > distracting. > > I'd say it's a safe bet that 8/10 cats prefer outlines. > > A white face with at least 2px black outline. > > That should be the default. > > For those catering for the other 2/10 moggies can fiddle with the settings. > > Tim > > > On 11/08/2012 12:09, Glenn Maynard wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 1:02 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> > It's miles and light years beyond ugly. (Transparency doesn't help; >> > it's >> > still a square rectangle at the bottom of the screen, pulling my >> > attention >> > away from the video.) >> >> I don't understand: why would you activate captions when you don't >> want to look at them? >> If they draw your attention away, just disable them. > > > Ugly rectangular boxes draw my attention away. Once I'm through reading a > caption, a black box is more visible at the edge of my vision (while my > attention is back on the video), and it makes every change more > attention-grabbing (eg. black boxes disappearing). > > -- > Glenn Maynard > >
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