- From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
- Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 23:58:21 +0000 (UTC)
- To: Christian Vogler <christian.vogler@gallaudet.edu>
- cc: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>, public-texttracks@w3.org
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011, Christian Vogler wrote: > > > > That's like ten times more annoying to read than the normal captions > > on that video. I think if we are to support roll-up captions we need a > > far more convincing use case. > > Two points in response: > > 1. Roll-up captions are essential for live captioning where the text is > transmitted as the captioner types, especially when steno errors and > subsequent corrections are factored in. Another issue is the sheer > number of words per minute during live captioning, where without roll-up > you would end up missing the context half of the time. This usage > scenario is very common during live broadcasts in the United States, > where captions are not only roll-up, but also appear word by word, > instead of line by line. I'll check around if I can find a video clip > that shows this clearly. Since we're not supporting live captioning at all currently, that doesn't seem like a convincing use case either. If it's the only use case, then we should address it at the same time as live captioning. > 2. The implementation of roll-up in this video is poor. The positioning > and alignment jumps around with every roll up, which of course makes it > very hard to read. > > Now come to think of it, a corollary is that roll-up support by itself > is not sufficient. You also need a way to paste on captions live word by > word for it to be truly useful. If the use case is just live captioning, then I agree that just roll-up is insufficient. Currently, though, doing live captioning with external video text tracks in HTML is very much an issue that's up in the air. This is the bug for that topic: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14104 -- Ian Hickson U+1047E )\._.,--....,'``. fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A /, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'
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