- From: Michael[tm] Smith <mike@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:20:17 +0900
- To: "Linss, Peter" <peter.linss@hp.com>
- Cc: public-test-infra@w3.org
Hi Peter, I'm wondering if, in order to reduce confusion among maintainers of testsuites/specs in the test harness/framework, you'd consider dropping the "title" column from the "specifications" table in the DB schema. To me at least, that column doesn't seem necessary. At least, the data from it is actually not used in the framework code itself anywhere except in the util/GenerateImplementationReport.php code -- and that code could easily be switched to use the "description" contents instead. So, unless you need to use the "title" contents in the shepherd code, maybe you could consider dropping it and having the GenerateImplementationReport.php code use the "description" contents instead. If you want further rationale, here are more details: The context for this request is that, as I mentioned to you a couple of weeks back, I've been working on writing up a Web UI for some of the tasks that currently require direct access to the harness/framework mysql DB and shell access to the server the framework code is running one. One of those tasks is the task of adding a new specification, which amounts to adding a new row to the "specifications" table in the DB. And among the columns in that table are "spec", "description", and "title". As you know, the "spec" column stores a short (less than 32 chars) string that's used as the DB key for the spec (as well a shortname in framework URLs -- similar to the shortnames we have for specs in /TR working drafts). and the "description" column holds the full name of the spec. Example: "navigation-timing". So that's all well and good. But then there's the "title" column which, like the "spec" column, stores a short (less than 32 char) string, and the semantics of which are "human readable short title for the spec". Example: "Navigation Timing". I think that "title" column is problematic in that it's a potential source of confusion to testsuite/spec maintainers. The scenario I have it mind that a maintainer goes to the framework to add a new specification, and they are stumped with when trying to choose content for that "title" column: What I can imagine them thinking is, If it's not a shortname-like ID thing like the "spec" string (and not used in URLs), and it's not the full title of the spec, then... what is it, exactly? To be more specific about why I think it would be confusing for them: I think for a lot of spec/testsuite maintainers, the full titles of their specs are already very short -- less than 32 chars -- e.g., "Navigation Timing". So, what those uses would likely end up doing is just repeating the "description" contents in the "title" column. And for other maintainers who have specs with full titles that are longer than 32 chars, I don't think it'll be clear to that what abbreviated version of the full title they should use, or why an abbreviated title is even needed to begin with. So, while I think it would not a huge problem if you kept the "title" column, I think it would help prevent some user confusion if it were dropped. --Mike P.S., From looking at the harness code, I can see that must have written the "specifications" schema and the code for handling the specification data after you'd written the "testsuites" schema and the code for handling that, and maybe you initially created with the "specifications" schema with both "title" and "description" columns for symmetry with the "testsuites" schema -- where the distinction between the "title" and "description" of a testsuite is actually quite useful. For example, "WOFF User Agent" (testsuite title) vs. "User agent tests for Web Open Font Format" (testsuite description). It's especially useful if you have multiple test suites for a particular spec, or multiple versions of a test suite, and you want to give testsuite maintainers a way to help users of the harness to be able to clearly distinguish among the different testsuites. But while a description for a testsuite is something useful in the context of the harness, a similar description for a specification really isn't -- because there's no similar need to multiple versions of a specification stored in the harness, and no need to distinguish among different specifications, because their titles alone are sufficient for that. So I can see that what you ended up doing for the specifications case was taking the "description" column that you had for testsuites, and sort of repurposing it for the full spec title (instead of an actual description) -- which left the actual "title" column kind of hanging around without a clear need. -- Michael[tm] Smith http://people.w3.org/mike/+
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