RE: Google pushing for a choice for publishers to opt-out ... in Australia

Here are the minutes https://www.w3.org/2023/09/13-GenerativeAI-minutes.html


I proposed a GAI Community Group https://www.w3.org/community/groups/proposed/#gai. It needs support and at least one chair.

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From: Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 8:27 AM
To: Laurent Le Meur <laurent@edrlab.org>; public-tdmrep@w3.org
Subject: Re: Google pushing for a choice for publishers to opt-out ... in Australia

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@Laurent Le Meur<mailto:laurent@edrlab.org> – do you know if there are minutes from that breakout?   If so, can you share?

Leonard

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Interesting read:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/aug/09/google-says-ai-systems-should-be-able-to-mine-publishers-work-unless-companies-opt-out<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/aug/09/google-says-ai-systems-should-be-able-to-mine-publishers-work-unless-companies-opt-out__;!!N11eV2iwtfs!uVzHAq8e-gj4o0dTJlUBxv1da7_VAqCvCaCOOGQiaboBSYnXc0qjv7qd6YY9di_a_i9Gd7KaghMip7w$>

But still no move from Google after this blog post: https://blog.google/technology/ai/ai-web-publisher-controls-sign-up/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/blog.google/technology/ai/ai-web-publisher-controls-sign-up/__;!!N11eV2iwtfs!uVzHAq8e-gj4o0dTJlUBxv1da7_VAqCvCaCOOGQiaboBSYnXc0qjv7qd6YY9di_a_i9Gd7KaGKh1FEI$>

At the W3C TPAC, yesterday, I tried to push the discussion during a breakout session on the impact of generative AI on the Web.
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The Impact of Generative AI on the Web · Issue #6 · w3c/tpac2023-breakouts<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/w3c/tpac2023-breakouts/issues/6__;!!N11eV2iwtfs!uVzHAq8e-gj4o0dTJlUBxv1da7_VAqCvCaCOOGQiaboBSYnXc0qjv7qd6YY9di_a_i9Gd7KarJ6_y8U$>
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3 people from Google in the room; two young developers (unknown service) and Dan Brickley (Google / DataCommons). They didn't seem interested by copyright issues, more by the future of the Web at large vs AI.

Best regards
Laurent

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