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Re: The final report has been released [via TDM Reservation Protocol Community Group]

From: Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 23:38:19 +0000
To: Laurent Le Meur <laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org>
CC: "public-tdmrep@w3.org" <public-tdmrep@w3.org>
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The report is *not* a technical specification, however, it is just a report.  It can’t be adopted into law by the EU because it is not a normative technical specification.

I do agree that having it out there for folks to review and possibly implement will indeed help in finding out whether there is backing amonst the industry to carry it forward.

NOTE: ZIP didn’t actually become useful as the generic container of choice *UNTIL* it was standardized by IETF and ISO.  Prior to that, it was just a proprietary specification from the PKZip company.


From: Laurent Le Meur <laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org>
Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 8:48 PM
To: Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com>
Cc: public-tdmrep@w3.org <public-tdmrep@w3.org>
Subject: Re: The final report has been released [via TDM Reservation Protocol Community Group]
Hi Leonard,

"non-normative" is IMHO something that fits better with parts of a specification.

My first tentative response is that specifications should be used before they become a standard, and not the reverse.
And having a specification stamped by an international body is not the only way to get something adopted ("zip" and the LCP DRM are two examples among 1000).

The EU Directive does not make any technical specification normative: it simply says:

The exception or limitation provided for in paragraph 1 shall apply on condition that the use of works and other subject matter referred to in that paragraph has not been expressly reserved by their rightholders in an appropriate manner, such as machine-readable means in the case of content made publicly available online.

What we have achieved is a simple & standardized way for publishers to express their will. Our technical specification is an appropriate solution to the problem of defining a "machine-readable solution" rightsholders can use, and this use is therefore backed up by a EU Directive = by laws.

Now, I agree that getting a W3C stamp would give more exposition to the specification, once it has proved that is fits its purpose. This is something we should do when sufficient feedback has been received from TDM Actors and from rightholders.

Best regards

Le 16 févr. 2022 à 19:19, Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com<mailto:lrosenth@adobe.com>> a écrit :

Since the report of the TDM CG is a non-normative document, are there any plans to move this report to a WG to make it a normative reference?

I can’t see how we can reasonably ask anyone to implement a non-normative work.


From: W3C Community Development Team <team-community-process@w3.org<mailto:team-community-process@w3.org>>
Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 5:22 PM
To: public-tdmrep@w3.org<mailto:public-tdmrep@w3.org> <public-tdmrep@w3.org<mailto:public-tdmrep@w3.org>>
Subject: The final report has been released [via TDM Reservation Protocol Community Group]
Good news, we have just published the final report of the TDM Representation Protocol. You'll find it at the URLhttps://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2022%2Ftdmrep%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7Clrosenth%40adobe.com%7Ce16144b97c874c0585fe08d9f16031ac%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637806217724183064%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=9WEcP5XEpQ0pjhm8U2vj0xCodWtbn60YKqEIwCLewss%3D&amp;reserved=0<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2022%2Ftdmrep%2F&data=04%7C01%7Clrosenth%40adobe.com%7C44aa034573fc4eab061508d9f17cf1c3%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637806341208894465%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=uZ8cbXcDs420p0MY3uPg1DXthInz1sVboRteKeKIaqs%3D&reserved=0>. It is referenced from the TDMRep Community home page.

As multiple EU countries are moving towards the implementation of the DSM directive, publishers are looking for solutions. The Community Group will now focus on communication, its targets being the European Commission, TDM Actors and publishers.

In order to communicate effectively, the Community Group will have to work on its governance and define some tools (maybe a presentation website, recorded demos, a brochure, a logo ...). We'll therefore organize multiple calls in 2022.

If you are aware of events which could be good supports for presentations, please contact the CG chairs. We're currently thinking about the IPTC Spring Meeting 2022 (May) and the Digital Publishing Summit 2022 (June).


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