Re: [TalentSignal] citizenship requirement (and other JobPosting requirements)

Hello all, I hope you keeping well.

Apologies for letting this hang for a month, but unless anyone has any 
objections or further suggestions I will go ahead with proposing to 
schema.org the following property for JobPosting

*eligibilityToWorkRequirement: **Definition:* legal requirements such as 
citizenship, visa and other documentation required for an applicant to 
this job. *Expected Type:* Text

Phil

On 11/02/2020 18:02, Vicki Tardif wrote:
> eligibilityToWorkRequirement seems to capture both cases. A separate 
> property specific to citizenship could be proposed later if it is needed.
>
> - Vicki
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 6:40 AM Phil Barker <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk 
> <mailto:phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     Hello all, the extraordinarily observant among you may have
>     noticed from the summary of progress in our first year
>     <https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/2020/02/05/one-year-in/>
>     that the following properties which we proposed to schema.org
>     <http://schema.org> a couple of months ago were recently accepted
>     into the January release:
>
>       * physical requirement
>       * security clearance requirement
>       * sensory requirement
>       * applicationContact,
>       * employerOverview
>
>     Missing from that list is *citizenship requirement*. This is
>     because Stuart Sutton raised a point
>     <https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/2384#issuecomment-554768395>
>     that I thought was worth bringing back here for further discussion:
>
>         Phil, just a thought about "citizenship requirement". In the
>         context of employment, I would think that the citizenship
>         question goes to a candidate's legal work eligibility. Some of
>         what HR Open Standards focuses on in this regard are: (a)
>         eligibility types (e.g., "US noncitizen national", "alien
>         authorized to work"; and (b) eligibility documentation (e.g.,
>         "permanent resident card", "US passport", "foreign passport
>         with I-94/A form" etc.). Since a "citizenship requirement"
>         might get to some of it, does it do the full trick?
>
>     We had proposed :
>
>     *|citizenshipRequirement|:*
>
>         *Defintion:*Country of applicant's citizenship.
>         *Expected Type:*Country, Text, Url
>
>     Would this be better:
>
>     *eligibilityToWorkRequirement: **Definition:* legal requirements
>     such as citizenship, visa and other documentation required for an
>     applicant to this job. *Expected Type:* Text
>
>     I know Text is a blunt instrument here, but I am not keen on
>     trying to come up with a globally applicable vocabulary for this.
>
>     Are there many cases where citizenship is important if other
>     criteria such as a work visa / green card are satisfied? Should we
>     propose eligibilityToWorkRequirement /as well as/
>     citizenshipRequirement or /instead of/? (If we suggest both we
>     need to be careful because it won't be clear whether they are
>     alternatives or both required unless we alter the definition).
>
>     Phil
>
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Phil Barker <http://people.pjjk.net/phil>. http://people.pjjk.net/phil
CETIS LLP <https://www.cetis.org.uk>: a cooperative consultancy for 
innovation in education technology.
PJJK Limited <https://www.pjjk.co.uk>: technology to enhance learning; 
information systems for education.

CETIS is a co-operative limited liability partnership, registered in 
England number OC399090
PJJK Limited is registered in Scotland as a private limited company, 
number SC569282.