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Re: TalentSignal properties relating to employer information

From: Phil Barker <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 15:33:13 +0000
To: public-talent-signal@w3.org
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Thank you all. I have just created a pull request 
<https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/pull/2402> that will provide 
information about the employer in JobPosting. It adds properties for 
applicationContact, employerOverview and allows DefinedTerm to be used 
for industry property, as we discussed.

Regards, Phil

On 05/11/2019 12:21, Phil Barker wrote:
>
> Hello all, I hope that we can discuss and suggest three properties 
> loosely related to employer information as solutions to the following 
> from our page of issues / requirements 
> <https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Issues,_use_cases_and_requirements>:
>
> *1. *There should be a means of providing contact details for a 
> JobPosting. Arises from analysis of Junior software developer example 
> posting 
> <https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Examples:_Junior_software_developer>
>
> I know this is maybe useful only in a minority of cases where jobs are 
> maybe specialized, or non-standardized, but seems very common in some 
> sectors, for example Higher Education or small companies, to have a 
> "for further information please contact..." line in job adverts.
>
> -- I propose we suggest a property applicationContact to JobPosting, 
> with an expected value type of schema.org/ContactPoint 
> <http://schema.org/ContactPoint> defintion: "contact details for 
> further information relevant to this job posting"
>
> *2. *provide Employer Overview "Description of the employer, career 
> opportunities, and work environment" From Comparison of JDX JobSchema+ 
> <https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Comparison_of_JDX_JobSchema%2B_with_schema.org> 
> with schema.org, see also issue 1829 
> <https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/1829> point 5.
>
> This is different to the general description that can be provided for 
> a hiring organization in that it provides information relevant to 
> filling a hiring requirement, for example advertising what a great 
> place the organization is to work at, or signaling that legal 
> requirements for hiring are being upheld.
>
> -- I propose we suggest a property employerOverview (text) 
> "description of the employer, career opportunities and work 
> environment for this position"
>
> *3. *Provide a means of giving the industry a standard code. From 
> Comparison of JDX JobSchema+ 
> <https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Comparison_of_JDX_JobSchema%2B_with_schema.org> 
> with schema.org
>
> Currently JobPosting has a property for industry 
> <https://schema.org/industry>, (the industry associated with the job 
> position) but this can only be text so codes like those in NAICS or 
> ESCO would be difficult to interpret.
>
> -- This is easily dealt with by allowing DefinedTerms to be used to 
> specify industry.
>
> *Please respond.* It's important we discuss anything that I propose 
> that does not meet requirements, but it is also useful in 
> demonstrating wider agreement if people who agree say so. A simple 
> "+1" in response would be fine.
>
> Thank you, Phil
>
> -- 
>
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Phil Barker <http://people.pjjk.net/phil>. http://people.pjjk.net/phil
CETIS LLP <https://www.cetis.org.uk>: a cooperative consultancy for 
innovation in education technology.
PJJK Limited <https://www.pjjk.co.uk>: technology to enhance learning; 
information systems for education.

CETIS is a co-operative limited liability partnership, registered in 
England number OC399090
PJJK Limited is registered in Scotland as a private limited company, 
number SC569282.
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