Re: [TalentSignal] proposal for Job Start Date

Hello all.

Following the discussions last week and the suggestion from Anderw 
Cunsolo, I have redrafted the proposal on the wiki. It now reads:

> *jobStartDate*
>
>     *Definition*: The date on which a successful applicant for this
>     job would be expected to start work. Choose a specific date in the
>     future or use the jobImmediateStart property to indicate the
>     position is to be filled as soon as possible.
>     *Expected type*:ISO 8601 Date <https://schema.org/Date>
>
> *jobImmediateStart*
>
>     *Defintion*: An indicator as to whether a position is available
>     for an immediate start.
>     *Expected type*:Boolean <https://schema.org/Boolean>
>
(I added the hint to "use the jobImmediateStart property to indicate the 
position is to be filled as soon as possible" to steer people away from 
using text in what I think will be the most common scenario for that.)

Please think through how this would work for real-world examples and let 
me know of any comments. I will work up the pull request to submit via 
the schema.org github repo, hopefully at the end of this week.

Phil


On 02/05/2019 16:02, Phil Barker wrote:
>
> Hello all, the second relatively simple issue that we prioritized, is 
> that currently schema.org/JobPosting has no way to specify the 
> expected start date for the job being advertised.
>
> A simple way to fix this 
> <https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Provide_start_date_for_job> 
> is a new property of JobPosting:
>
> *jobStartDate*
>
>     *Definition: *The date on which a successful applicant for this
>     job would be expected to start work. Text values such as
>     "Immediately" or "As soon as possible" may be used when a specific
>     date is not appropriate.
>
>     *Expected type:* ISO 8601 Date <https://schema.org/Date> or Text
>     <https://schema.org/Text>
>
>
> Please let me know if you wish to improve on this or have an 
> alternative suggestion. In particular, is a text value to indicate an 
> immediate start sufficient, or should this be handled more explicitly, 
> for example as a separate property?
>
> On that question, my own view (as exemplified in the proposal) is 
> that, while an explicit indicator for immediate start may be useful 
> for internal systems, a text value is adequate for advertising this on 
> the web. If experience and demand show that this approach is not 
> adequate, we would have evidence to provide to schema.org for a 
> separate, explicit property.
>
> Regards, Phil.
>
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information systems for education.

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England number OC399090
PJJK Limited is registered in Scotland as a private limited company, 
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