Re: [TalentSignal] proposal for Job Start Date

Hello, AllThis is an interesting discussion.
I think for the majority of use cases, a single date or an indicator for immediate start should suffice. I don't like the option for local interpretation for a string, so I like the idea of an "immedidateStart" indicator which is more clear on interpretation.
I would amend it to be something like the following:
jobStartDate


Definition: The date on which a successful applicant for this job would be expected to start work. Choose a specific date in the future, or use immediateStartIndicator property.



Expected type: ISO 8601 Date


immediateStartIndicator


Definition: Set this indicator if the successful applicant for this job would be expected to start immediately. Use jobStartDate if the start date for the successful applicant is at a specific future date.



Expected type: Boolean


@Phil you are more familiar with the best practices of schema.org, would the above make sense?
Regards,Andrew.


 Andrew CunsoloVP Product DevelopmentTalemetry Inc.+1 519-841-4334Acunsolo@talemetry.com
 

    On Friday, May 3, 2019, 2:28:57 p.m. EDT, Joseph D. Marsh <jmarsh@3storysoftware.com> wrote:  
 
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Agreed.
 
  
 
Thanks,
 
- Joseph
 
  
 
From: Merrilea Mayo <merrileamayo@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 2:23 PM
To: public-talent-signal@w3.org
Subject: Re: [TalentSignal] proposal for Job Start Date
 
  
 
I've never seen it?  Not common.
 
Merrilea
 
On 5/3/2019 1:06 PM, Phil Barker wrote:
 

Just thinking some more about this: Is there any case for allowing a range of dates? Are there examples of job being advertised to start between "now and three weeks time" or "after 1 June but before 15 June"?
 
Phil
 
On 02/05/2019 16:02, Phil Barker wrote:


 

Hello all, the second relatively simple issue that we prioritized, is that currently schema.org/JobPosting has no way to specify the expected start date for the job being advertised.
 
A simple way to fix this is a new property of JobPosting:
 
jobStartDate
 

Definition: The date on which a successful applicant for this job would be expected to start work. Text values such as "Immediately" or "As soon as possible" may be used when a specific date is not appropriate.
 


Expected type: ISO 8601 Date or Text
 

  
 
Please let me know if you wish to improve on this or have an alternative suggestion. In particular, is a text value to indicate an immediate start sufficient, or should this be handled more explicitly, for example as a separate property?
 
On that question, my own view (as exemplified in the proposal) is that, while an explicit indicator for immediate start may be useful for internal systems, a text value is adequate for advertising this on the web. If experience and demand show that this approach is not adequate, we would have evidence to provide to schema.org for a separate, explicit property.
 
Regards, Phil.
 
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