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Re: Domain sketch

From: Simon Grant <asimong@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2019 15:38:05 +0100
Message-ID: <CALV740TMMfvhqPYnvzaXVM14Dm5PZ4=PKzUUzBqgn5ZoFE2roQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Alex Jackl <alex@bardicsystems.com>
Cc: "Tyszko, Jason" <jtyszko@uschamber.com>, Phil Barker <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk>, "public-talent-signal@w3.org" <public-talent-signal@w3.org>
It's very understandable that people elide certain words if there is no
confusion in their home context. In this case, though, I think it would be
really helpful to distinguish three things which could loosely be called
"competency", and which I think different people are referring to at
different times.

1. A natural "competency": a property of an agent, as in the question "do
you have this competency" meaning "are you competent" rather than "are you
2. A "competency definition" (or "competency description"): a form of words
describing a competency without reference to the person that may or may not
have it.
3. A "certificate of competency" or "competency certificate": something
like a credential (I have no opinion about whether it is a credential or
not) that means that some organisation attests that a person has a

You could also have an abstract "competency certificate description" but I
think that is less helpful.

To my reading, Alex so far has been closest to keeping these distinctions

Does that help?


On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 14:54, Alex Jackl <alex@bardicsystems.com> wrote:

> Jason,
> You point to an interesting thing.   I think I understand exactly what you
> are saying.   You are saying:
> "a university may publish that a particular person has achieved these ten
> competencies but did not get an Associate's degree."
> I would *strongly assert (I am not saying this is true but I htink it
> should be) *that a super formal credential like an associate's degree IS
> not structurally different than a "university publishing the achievement of
> having mastered these ten competencies" .  It is not a difference in TYPE,
> it is a difference in scale and formality.
> A Credential could be a badge that I issued through Credly that you
> attended four hours of *Alex Jackl's Amazing Data Emporium*, or it could
> be a PhD in Information System Design from MIT.
> Both are credentials - and what makes it a credential/achievement
> assertion rather than a competency is the assertion from an organization
> that XYZ knowledge, skill, aptitude or experience has been validated in
> some way.
> A competency/achievement description is the description of the XYZ
> knowledge, skill, aptitude or experience that is being assesses or
> asserted.
> I believe this level of simplicity and clarity in language will serve us
> well as we try to align all these standards and  methods of describing
> these issues
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