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Re: [Talent-Signal] relating competencies to job postings

From: Phil Barker <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2019 14:45:18 +0100
To: public-talent-signal@w3.org
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Hello again, I have updated the wiki page about referring skills 
requirements to competency definitions 
<https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Referring_skills_requirements_to_competency_definitions> 
[1] as a result of our discussions so far. Please take a look at it and 
let me know what you think.

If you would like other examples adding, we can do that, but but please 
let me know what the example should be based on.

So far it looks like we need to suggest that schema.org

    a) add DefinedTerm to the expected range of skills

    b) extend the definition of skills to help clarify that it covers
    all types of competency

Let me know if you think anything else is required.

Best regards, Phil


1. 
https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Referring_skills_requirements_to_competency_definitions

On 03/07/2019 12:24, Phil Barker wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I know that many of you are about start a holiday; and after that I 
> will be on vacation. So this may not be the best time to start a 
> conversation, but I want to post this now to see what I come back to...
>
> One of the issues we have listed is how to refer skills requirements 
> to competency definitions in a standard framework.
>
> I have drafted on the wiki a straw man for a simple way of doing this 
> <https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Example_of_how_to_refer_skills_requirements_to_competency_definitions> 
> [1] with minimal change to what currently exists in schema.org. It 
> requires only that the expected type for one property be changed.
>
> {
>    "@context":"http://schema.org/",
>    "@type": "JobPosting",
>    "title": "Junior software developer",
>    "skills": {
>      "@type": "Definedterm",
>      "termCode": "K0016",
>      "description": "Knowledge of computer programming principles",
>      "inDefinedTermSet": {
>        "@type": "DefinedTermSet",
>        "name": "National Initiative for Cybersecurity Education (NICE) Cybersecurity Workforce Framework",
>        "url":"https://doi.org/10.6028/NIST.SP.800-181",
>        "publisher": {
>          "@type": "Organization",
>          "name": "National Institute of Standards and Technology"
>        },
>        "datePublished": "2017-08"
>      }
>    }
> }
>
> Points to note / consider
>
> * this doesn't attempt to fully describe the competency, that's the 
> job of the framework. Furthermore this approach is pretty much 
> agnostic to the format used to represent the framework--I mean, it 
> would be nice if a linked-data friendly format were used and we can 
> then link properly to its @id but this example is a pdf.
>
> * is there any other key information that is required to identify the 
> competence being referred to?
>
> * I've used the existing schema.org property skills to cover a 
> competency that is defined as 'knowledge'. I know the KSA approach to 
> competencies, but also that other aspects can be added 
> (tools/technologies, attitudes) an other approaches taken. Can we live 
> with lumping these together under the label skills, or do we have to 
> look into creating a property with a different name? We will be 
> somewhat constrained by existing schema.org usage. Also I think that 
> trying to separate out the different aspects of competence would cause 
> difficulties when implemented in the non-specialist schema.org 
> context. Remember, the competence framework is where the information 
> should be provided about what aspect of competence (knowledge, skill 
> or ability) is being referred to.
>
> Best wishes to all celebrating the 4 July.
>
> Phil
>
>
> 1. 
> https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Example_of_how_to_refer_skills_requirements_to_competency_definitions
>
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>
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Phil Barker <http://people.pjjk.net/phil>. http://people.pjjk.net/phil
CETIS LLP <https://www.cetis.org.uk>: a cooperative consultancy for 
innovation in education technology.
PJJK Limited <https://www.pjjk.co.uk>: technology to enhance learning; 
information systems for education.

CETIS is a co-operative limited liability partnership, registered in 
England number OC399090
PJJK Limited is registered in Scotland as a private limited company, 
number SC569282.
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